Desi Chronicles !

[Dheeraj]

Why Desi's go for Amway (a.k.a quixtar). I think this is more important question than asking why Desi's buy corola or camry.

I would call them HUMAN SPAM in malls of USA !!!

Hello.. Have we met before? You look like my cousin ? Are you from hyderabad are common mugged up lines by DDAA (Desperate Desi Amway Agent).

In pursuit of unachievable FFF (Fantasy of Financial Freedom) little they realise that they repel other NORMAL desi's like they have seen some MLM GOONDA.

Not only that when ever we see fellow Desi in malls, the first thing comes to our mind is "He might be a DDAA...". This is too bad for us. Everybody has a right to pursue their dream and career path but the way I see this approach, its evident that they are just inviting nightmares instead of good dreams of financial freedom.

These are few snippets of comments which i was able to gather so far from SANE JUNTA in retailiation for these DDAA's:

1) Cockroaches of the Mall
2) Desperados
3) Close encounters of the Amway Kind
4) Mainey aapko dekha hai Syndrome (have we met before syndrome)
5) Do aur Do panch (2+2=5... i dont knw the context of this either!!!)
6) Kati Patang (kite without strings... sorry... i knw i did a poor job here !!!)
7) Bawerey Nain (eyes constantly on move)
8) Baiju Bawara (Mad Max !?!)
9) Mainey MLM kyu kiya ? (MMKK---cant convert --- sorry )
10) Johny Joker (my personal fav... lol )

Phew and the list goes on !!!

So next time you become the victim, simply eat up your predator, for a change by following few tips:

DDAA (mostly accompained by Mrs DDAA) : Hello... Have we met before?

our answer: Hey you Donkey,Monkey, Rascal... When did you come to USA?
I still remember those days when we were put in jail together for eve teasing and you were convinced that nothing would happen just by a forceful hug.
Did you tell this to your wife ... no? ... ok let me tell her about this exciting venture we had...



Any addition to the list most welcome ...

Ok wasted enuff time on DDAA... Back to Work !!!

Chao, you have a great day, free from roaches :p

Dheeraj

[ASHAH]

Well Said!!!

I totally agree. This Amway pple are like cancer. U really need to beware of them. If by mistake u smile at them and give ur phone number then they will become your nightmare.

When i newly came to US i was wondering why indians dont smile at other indians. But now i came to know the truth.

So many times initially it happened with me. I go to mall and i hear the same old record." i think i have seen u some where". After little chit chat. " Whats ur phone number?" And from next day " Hi, we have a small seminar at so and so place. U please come. We will teach u how to make easy and fast money"........My god

Not only this. I met a middle aged couple few months back. After sometime when they asked for phone number, i understood that this are definetely amway guys so i gave them some wrong number. Then After weeks we again met at the same place, i recognised them and thought they will come and say that number was wrong. But the height is, they forgot my face and started all again. "I think i have seen u some where". Oh god. This is pathetic. No wonder indians are not friendly with each other. Bcoz from so many this type of experiences even i have stated neglecting pple who try to be over friendly with me.

[poragoru]

It's true that in more of the places it has become an annoying thing in malls and shops. I live in San Francisco bay area. When I first moved from Los Angeles to this area two years back, we met couple of persons like that. At beginning we were also looking for acquaintances. But desi people who stumbled upon us while buying stuffs in stores turned out to be all Amway guys or member of other pyramid scheme similar to Amway. They just kept calling and ate our heads. We said we were not interested, but one couple still kept calling with various excuses. Eventually my wife replied one day "if you guys are interested to be just nice friends, you are welcome to come to our house, but if you have other intentions like making us member of a pyramid scheme, I am going to report police for making harassing calls". They stopped calling us. Even nowadays whenever we go to IKEA to buy furniture, there we always get some desi people with similar profile asking very stupid question "is this furniture made of wood?", "do they deliver this furniture?", "is this curtain washable?" etc. We know who these guys are and our answers "why don't you ask one of those IKEA helping guys?", "who don't you read the label?" kind of. Most of the times they try to create a situation intentionally to introduce themselves and the apologize. For example, blocking the way using carts. I guess these are their typical copybook learning from pyramid scheme companies - "how to introduce yourself".

It's not that we don't like other desi people and we don't want to meet other desi people. But the problem is that nowadays whenever some desi people try to introduce themselves in Target, IKEA, Trader Joes or Indian grocery stores, our first reaction becomes "probably this guy is a pyramid scheme guy". However, most of the times it's very easy to figure out who is pyramid scheme and who is not. Most of these people are not good in socializing. Therefore, from their awkward pre-introduction behavior (for example, whispering between themselves first, before making the move) and the way they introduce themselves (with some typical "learned" copybook words), it becomes clear what are they up to.

Here are some tips how to deal with them:

1. Try to introduce yourself nicely. Probably they are NOT Amway or similar agents. Give them benefit of doubts. However, if you suspect something, be cautious. Don't give your phone number first. Don't show any sign that you are suspecting them. Try to get their phone number. Normally they offer their business card. Take it. Once you get their cards, say politely that you want to research about their busines and if it looks interesting you will get back to him and give your phone number. In addition, you can simply ask bluntly "you are not one of those pyramid scheme business, right? If so, I am going to report to police about this business.". Obviously they will say "no". Point to note that in many states pyramid scheme business is illegal. So reporting to police will help. However, to circumvent this legal issue, these businesses do all kind of tricks so that legally it cannot be labeled as "pyramid scheme". One big example is Amway. But basically they are pyramid scheme to milk people's money. Normally, the moment you will say "police" these guys will back down and run like a hell. Check out this link: http://www.ag.ca.gov/consumers/general/pyramid.htm


2. Their move to introduce themselves are very typical and stupid (you got to be wondering how are they doing good business):

First they will whisper among themselves and then make the move.
They try to create an awkward situation (like blocking way) and try to introduce themselves.
Most of the times their carts are empty or sometimes they don't have any cart at all. Simply they don't look like they are shopping.
Their words and questions are typically stupid and many times flattering "you guys are shopping a lot!", "you are buying a great thing!", "you are so smart!" etc.
Most of the times they roam around in store as couple.


3. Simply ignore them or refer to one of the helping guys in store.


In case you tangles up with them do the followings:

1. If you suspect something, never invite them in your own house. These guys will come to your house, eat your foods and eat your heads too. Instead, invite yourself at their house and eat their food.

2. Ask if this business is so successful and he is doing this business for three or four years, how come he is after an small "amateur" guys like you. He should be dealing with big shots and big investors.

3. Ask where is their head-office. In which state, county, city their business is registered. Gather information. Ask them to show their business brochure.

4. Normally they try to project their business as "franchise but unlike other franchise like MacD/Subway/Walmart this business is owned by members - like you or him". Give him the statistics that in USA 95% franchises fail and only 5% franchise make it their way to successful business. Ask what quality or business model they have in their business that will make them among that small 5%.

5. Bluntly tell them you are not interested in any business.

[poragoru]

Some link regarding Amway:

Amway = Wrong Way (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Amway.shtml)

Marchant Of Deception (http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/)

[kiransalu]

Thanks for opening our eyes. Poragoru - You impress me a lot. We are new to US.

Two weeks back, we(me and my wife) went to NYC to watch "War of the worlds" movie. After the movie we bought Ice Cream from the RoadSide Van.(Sorry I don't know how to refer to this IcE Cream Van). A guy came to us and below is the continuation. This guy was with his family and friends.

Guy: Hi, Do you know how to reach Times Square.
Me : Yeah. Go straight and take the first left.
Guy. Thanks. Are you from India?
Me : Yes. We are from India.
Guy: Which part of India?
Me : South India. from XXXXXXX
Guy: Oh is it. I am also from XXXXXX. So what do you do here?
Me : I am working as a Software Programmer in XXXX Downtown, NYC.
Guy : Excellent. What is she doing? Is she working?
Me : Few months back, we came to US. She is not working.
Guy : What is her qualification? Is she interested to work here?
Me : B.Sc. Computers. Yes she is interested. But she is in H4. She cannot work.
Guy : Nice meeting you Mr. Kiran. How is your work going on?
Me : Nice meeting you. Work is going fine.
<<Started speaking to me in my local language>>.
Guy : You can also work in Part time. We have a very good openings for our India community. We need some part time business partners to support our business here in NYC.
Me : Are you owning a business? what is it?
Guy : Yes. I am a GC holder. I own a business in XXX State. We are here today to meet our business partners. We are growning very fast in this business. We are also looking for part time supporters for this business.
Me : What is it? Software co.
Guy : Oh Siva, We got to rush now. I can explain you everything in phone.
Me : ok. no problem. Have a nice day.
Guy: Can I have your phone number? This is my business card
Me : Yes. ###-###-####.
Guy's Wife : Also we are doing GC, Non immigrant Visas etc. we can process your GC ASAP.
Me : Oh We are not interested to stay here. We are dying to go back home. Just for 8 months project we came here.
Guy's Wife: Why? Are you not interested in earning here? If you join us, you can earn good money more than your what you earn now.
Me : We are more attached to our family. I am satisfied with what i earn in India.
Guy : Oh Oh. We should meet in next few days. You can do this business from India too. It's very simple.
Me : Ok. No problem.
Guy : See you. Have a nice day.

After a week, he called up at my home number. Continue reading the phone conversation.

Me : Hello
Guy : Hello mr. Kiran. How are you? How was your week end?
Me : Who is this? I cannot recognize you.
Guy : I am YYYYY. We met in NYC in XX street.
Me : Oh. Tell me YYYY.
Guy : Sorry I was too busy with my schedule.
Me : No problem
Guy : All our business partners are meeting in NYC on Friday. I am interested to invite you for the meeting. I want to help our community here. Thats the reason.
Me : Friday!!!. I have office on that day. I am in PROD Support. So cannot get out of office till 6:00 in the evening.
Guy : Oh is it? big business guys are coming on that day. Ok no problem. We can meet after 6:00 PM in a place convienent for you.
Me : Friday i am going to Philadelphia at 7:00 PM to visit my sister. Sorry I planned this last week and cannot skip this.
Guy : Oh is it. can you just make it for half hour.
Me : Can we meet on next monday or tuesday? I am free after 6:00 PM
Guy : Ok thats not a problem. I have to come again from XXX State. No problem. I will call you before i start from here.
Me : Oh is it. Because of me you are travelling a long way to NYC. We can talk now. I am free next half hour.
Guy : It is good, if i explain you in person.
Me : Not a problem at all. I can understand very well.
Guy : It's good, if we meet with all other business partners. That way you will be comfortable.
Me : Ok. It's your wish.
Guy : I got to catch my flight to Chicago. I will call you on Mon or Tuesday.
Me : Ok. Thanks.
Guy : You said your wife is not working now. So you can also bring her to the meeting. She can help us in our business from home.
Me : Wait a second. (Put the phone on Mute. Are you interested in working here.)
My wife : Yes. I will come with you.
Me : Ok Mr. YYYY. I will bring her. But she is in H4 Visa.
Guy : No problem. We can figure it out. Nice talking to you.

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I am still waiting for his call. What is your opinion? Are we doing right things?

YOUR ADVISE PLEASE!!!

[Abhishek]

Kiran..... Never encourage his call.

i went to attend a seminar of this wrongway pple i mean amway pple. . A friend of mine is a member and he said "Arrey chal yaar. there u will meet indians americans, all type of pple", so just out of curiosity i joined him to know what r this pple upto. As soon as i entered the room, all desis. Not a single firang or black. All starring at me as if NAYA BAKRA FASA. I was 200% sure that i dont want to be part of this pple.

On a stage a sardarji started a speech. Very well dressed, good personality and dashing speech. Excellent way of presentation. After some time i was shock,surprise and could not stop my laughter whn he said " OUR AIM IS TO BUY EVERYTHING ONLINE AND DROP THE SHUTTERS OF WALMART" There was no way i could stop my self from laughing and laughing. I dont think i have heard any thing more funny in my life then this.

So the bottom line is there is no respect of amways guys anywhere. i myself have insulted them so many times after that seminar. So dont come in there talks of fasr making money and part time jobs and all. U r not going to get any thing.

[poragoru]

kiransalu,
As Abhishek advised in earlier post - never encourage to them to call. He will call you eventually - make no mistake about it. He meets each person and when he sees that the person is interested, he see that an "opportunity to make another person under him in the pyramid". He is not going to miss that opportunity and he will call you. It's not that he is trying to make you rich. He is going to pretend that he is trying to help your wife to get some extra income. But in reality he is after your wallet.

Normally nowadays they try to present that you are making a "partnership" in a business. As pyramid scheme is illegal, they try to project their business in various creative ways - "partnership", "franchise" etc. But basically they are all pyramid scheme or MLM (multi-level marketing scheme) where a few people at the top milk many people under.

You always have to keep in mind that in capitalist economy it's not easy to become rich (unless you win a lotto). It's takes lots of efforts, sacrifice, creativity, coordination and luck to become rich. Think about Google founders. They are rich now and are getting richer almost everyday. But people forget the initial turmoil years of Google (1998-2001), their struggles to stay in business in the skepticism of dot-com bubble busts. So whoever promise you that he/she is going to make you rich quickly without any effort is a damn pathological liar - whether he/she is desi or non-desi.

Just keep in mind that if you become member of those MLM/pyramid scheme business, you have to roam around in malls, shops for number of years - just like them. Do you want that pathetic life? Doing business is good, but roaming around in malls and shops pathetically and looking for scapegoats is not a business.

[Ndelhi]

Most of us have had similar experiences and I think this forum is a great way to let our fellow Indians know about these 'scheme guys' :D (specially those new to US)

My husband and I had a similar encounter where this decent looking female called out from the back "are u guys from india?" although a lot of people mistake me to be Hispanic and always talk to me in Spanish but to my ill fate I uttered a sentence in Hindi.she got really friendly and said was from Mumbai, its quite obvious that a guy from south India will target people from south so that they can get to their comfort level by conversing in their regional language.We are hindi speaking so we've never been approched by any person from south (tells us about the detailed training these guys go through).She tried to get my husband's number and somehow i always give mine.In a few days i get a call on my cell phone and its the lady's husband.He wasn't much interested in talking to me coz he felt I was a tough nut to crack, he insisted on talking to my husband.My husband didn't really pay much heed and tried to cut it short by sayin stuff like "I'll consult my wife about it"

That was the last sentence he said and this so called gentleman started giving my husband lectures about how he as the man of the household needs to take his own decisions and that why should he consult his wife.Financial matters should be his decisions solely...that was it..!! I gave him a piece of my mind and conveyed my message loud and clear that hes noone to suggest how we should run our household and who should have an upper hand(poor guy didn't know he was on speaker phone all the while) That was the last time we heard from him.

Don't feel shy, you must reveal your disinterest very clearly and be rude when required...else you'll end up having them over for tea at your place or maybe worse..end up attending those sick seminars and ruining a lovely weekend.

Be bold and just shun such people away and slowly you'll develope a third sense for such kinda 'get rich in a day' guys !!! :D

[poragoru]

That was the last sentence he said and this so called gentleman started giving my husband lectures about how he as the man of the household needs to take his own decisions and that why should he consult his wife.Financial matters should be his decisions solely...that was it..!! I gave him a piece of my mind and conveyed my message loud and clear that hes noone to suggest how we should run our household and who should have an upper hand(poor guy didn't know he was on speaker phone all the while) That was the last time we heard from him.

:) This conversation itself is a good example how unprofessional these guys are - poking nose everywhere. It's always better to stay away from these people who do not understand or recognize the boundary between business matter and personal/family matter. You got to be wondering if these guys are so unprofessional how good they are in business. The fact is that they are not. If they were so smart people and good in business, instead of looking for people in malls/shops they would be doing more productive works and make money. They are bunch of pathetic people who will loose money and eventually will drop out from those schemes.

Don't feel shy, you must reveal your disinterest very clearly and be rude when required...else you'll end up having them over for tea at your place or maybe worse..end up attending those sick seminars and ruining a lovely weekend.

That's right. If required, be rude and be blunt. And never invite them in your own home.

[vdesi]

Yes, I agree. Be blunt. My ex-roomie is into this. When my friends used to call and he picks up the phone, he used to start talking about quixtar to them. I told him to stop talking to my friends. He did. I think he does not like me since he could not entice me or my friends into that net. I was approached by a couple of people, once in mall and once at temple. Their buzz-word for it is "Booming E-commerce biz". I just told them-"I am all game if it is not quixtar". That stops them and they never go so far as to ask me my number.

[riba bg]

This kind of marketing is done not only by Indians alone. I've been victim of this "leech" behaviour by an American, and a Jamaican as well. and their favourite spots to capture u, apart from the ones already listed by others, are playgrounds, libraries etc..
"Oh! is that game cricket, right? it's good to see some non-American game played here.......etc etc "..........and then they'll come to the point slowly.
or "How's the book, have u read it yet, coz I am also looking for something interesting to read" ARGH!
well! unfortunately, there may be certain people who r genuinely interested in finding info about a game, book, or whatever, but because of these "leeches" (as i call them), everyone is looked upon skeptically.

[poragoru]

Their buzz-word for it is "Booming E-commerce biz". I just told them-"I am all game if it is not quixtar". That stops them and they never go so far as to ask me my number.

But sometimes they try to present as if their so-called "e-commerce" business model is totally different from Amway/Quixter. But in reality it's not.

[poragoru]

This kind of marketing is done not only by Indians alone.

You will find these people in every ethnicity. I have seen an American guy getting bankrupt and had to sell his house after doing Amway. We see desi people more because it's more comfortable for a desi people to catch/convince another desi people. It also exploits the trust that generated between two persons being from same country/ethnicity/area.

[Dheeraj]

EEKS ! Just wanted to update on the latest name of Amway, Quixstar breed... Its called Brit International !!!

This is a recent incident with a like-minded friend who thought he was spending a good weekend shopping with his wife and kid, and as usual bumped into DDAA(Desparate Duo Amway Agents).

Same modus operandi but with a difference. It seems my friend was looking for bath tub accesories for their kid, and then:

DDAA: This swimming ring is for what age of kids?
Friend: I think its for 3 years and above
DDA: Oh hi blah blah blah blah .... Your name ... Your kid name .... some more blah blah blah ... Which place in India .... blah blah blah ... Even I am from the same place ... It appears that our great great great great great grandfathers were friends... Blah ... Blah Blah ... YOUR PHONE NUMBER PLEASE ... OK bye bye .... will call you sometime next week....
Friend: :confused:

Next week:

DDAA: :D HELLO ... Remember me ? ... Actually I am from Brit International and have a very good Business Plan for you....

Friend: Hello ... HEllo .. HELLO I cant hear you ... Hello Hello ... and disconnected...

He tried my friends number till 2 days ... but my friend just ignored him.

So just wanted to add new name on the block!!! Remember its BRIT INTERNATIONAL now ... Like GOONDAS they keep changing their names !!!

Amway a.k.a Quixstar a.k.a Brit International !!!

I WISH YOU LUCK, PATIENCE, COURAGE FOR YOUR FUTURE CLOSE ENCOUNTERS WITH ROACHES!!! ;)

[so_what]

I also had the same encounter with these guys about 6 months back. Someone contacted me the same way as described and called me and offered me a ecommerce opportunity.

Thanks for all these information. Really helps ... I got suckered into this .... but again SO WHAT!!!

I am already suckered into my JOB for the next 45 years ... already layed off 4 times in 5 yrs and my boss doing yeayea yea ...everyday 9 to 5 monday to friday....office politics... tell all kind of lies in my resume ....and to top it my green card horror stories with the desi companies ....sucking all the $$'s

That's me... But you guys must be lucky!!!

[EvEiL]

heyy not fair how come i nver met anyone frm amways? BUT I DO GET A HELL LOT OF TELEMARKETING CALLS FRM SOME STUPID LONG DISTANCE FONE COMAPNY/COMPANIES!! PISSES ME OFFF

[smiley12]

www.donotcall.gov

[so_what]

Here is a quiz for all the people in this discussion...

What is the difference between a SLAVE and a PRISIONER?

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A SLAVE has already accepted his state and conditions and does what comes by his way.....

A PRISIONER always looks to get out the current situation somehow...


SO... where do you guys fit in....In the 9-5 job

I come across with my colleges and people working in jobs....

"YOU WILL GET USED TO IT...."(commute, snow, winter..., your pain in the arse boss,... )
"A COFFEE EVERYDAY AT STARBUCKS IS EXPENSIVE...." HAVE FREE OFFICE COFFEE(no you are broke doing what you are doing)

"I CANNOT AFFORD IT"
"WHAT PLANS FOR THE LONG WEEKEND"
"RUN FOR LEFTOVER FOOD AT OFFICE"

[vdesi]

What is your point?

[poragoru]

SO... where do you guys fit in....In the 9-5 job

Actually people who don't do 9-5 jobs ends up doing 24 hours jobs (or may be 16/17 hours). Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Ross Perot, Walton family and other rich people did not become rich by sitting on couch or vacationing all the year. It takes lots of efforts, time, risk and sacrifice to become rich. I am lazy enough to do that. I would prefer to spend some time with my family (and this forum) and vacationing with them one or twice in a year. So why am I not starting a company like Microsoft or staring a restaurant chain like MacDonald or building Casino or superstore chain like Walmart? My answer would be:
"I am just lazy!" :) Got it?

[poragoru]

What is your point?

It's a very common theme I heard many times. Start "e-commerce". You will become so rich in 2 or 3 years that you don't have to do any 9-5 job. You can just sit at home and watch your favorite TV shows all the day. Unfortunately I haven't encountered an "e-commerce" person who reached that ultimate goal of life. That day hasn't come for me when I would encounter such a person. Until that day, I will be seeing them in Target, Walmart or Indian grocery stores (not in their own business building/tower) - desparately trying to introduce themselves.

[vdesi]

The "USP" of "e-commerce" is "you are a partner"..when in reality one becomes a salesperson earning commission..and that too when able to entice more friends...
we do 9-5 jobs, they to 9-8 jobs(5-8 trying to sell the "e-commerce" in stores)...

[so_what]

Here is my point!!!

If you like your job and working 40 hrs for the next 40 years .... getting fired 4 to 5 times and all that well and good... no problem .... and you do not have any problem and complain about what you are doing... then just ignore my point...Be Happy man... that's what I want for you....

But if you hate your job and your boss like me and getting up in the morning everyday and all that do nothing about it ...it is SLAVERY .... I would do anything to contact people in malls to selling products if required to get out of my sucked up job.... That's the point....

I meet people everyday who complain about jobs and how horrible it is. And when I tell about the business ... they give all stupid reasons...And of course the person I am working with has not gone to a job for the last 3 yrs.

[poragoru]

I would do anything to contact people in malls to selling products if required to get out of my sucked up job.... That's the point....


Yes, definitely. If you are ambitious you should do that. Sabeer Bhatia started Hotmail, Vinod Khosla started Sun Microsystems, Amar Bose started Bose Corporation. But don't give me the crap by saying that you will get out of your sucked job and are going to be billionaire by rounding up people in malls and grocery stores. In this country there are million types businesses and million businessmen. All are not rich. Only smart businessmen get richer. By hanging out in malls and grocery stores you certainly indicated that you are not going to be one of those smart people. As you have not realized that yet, I assume you are also not so bright. Bright poeple realize that soon and drop out of those schemes soon.


I meet people everyday who complain about jobs and how horrible it is. And when I tell about the business ... they give all stupid reasons...

Probably it's not that they are all not interested in business. But certainly they are not interested in your business. So either blame yourself or blame your business.


And of course the person I am working with has not gone to a job for the last 3 yrs.

Really! Ask him if he goes to vacation at all. Ask him if he flies in business class or economy class (with discounted non-refundable ticket). Ask him if he uses coupon while getting haircut. Ask him if he eats free samples in Costco. You will be surprised to see that he is not doing any better than 9-5 job people. In addition, he is wasting his weekends by rounding up people in malls.

In the end, good luck for your business. Don't forget to post a message in this thread when you become billionaire. That will give us a chance to congratulate you. :rolleyes:

[vdesi]

meet people everyday who complain about jobs and how horrible it is. And when I tell about the business ... they give all stupid reasons...
Have you ever thought for once, why they reject this proposal? A wise person will not let an oppurtunity go by.
First of all, this is not "e-commerce business". Infact it is not a business it is a salesman job.
Nobody is asking anyone to stop doing this business, but atleast dont keep pestering disinterested people with repeated phone calls.

[so_what]

sure I will. Thanks

[DesiDude]

last year at wal mart one of these a$$holes approached me and said "hey nice shirt". I asked him "ru from amway or one of those fuqin pyramid schemes". he said "why do u ask". i said " only those a$$holes approach me in wal mart". his face fell and he turned around and walked away.


these blood sucking $hit eating leeches deserve nothing but rudeness !!!!


they give all indians a bad name in the US. mofo's need to be deported !!!!

[inhuman]

Recently I came to US and was about to suck into this IBO model. I went to attend their meeting, business talks etc. to understand who all r behind this business.
These IBO’s are highly educated people (?)…most of them are software professional who are using their excellent skill for “marketing the products”….which any lemon can do!

Its excellent business for those who like marketing the products!!!!( But u need to suck people anywhere and everywhere)

for IBO's
Do u sleep peacefully??? …..I guess NO....
most of the time you will be thinking ...this weekend I will hunt X people in shopping mall, in bus or train etc.

I don’t understand what innovation these people are doing other than sucking innocent humans!

This business is like “one way” if u r able to suck many people, ur the winner or u will die with dreams on the way without life!

[KZDDD]

ooooh..i totally despise those amway morons - anytime you're out, having a good time and even DARE to smile at another person (generally desi) who's staring at you, they dont waste no time coming over...for the first couple of times, i actually fell for it, but eventually learned my lesson...

they need to get a life man..

[guest]

is there any legal method to stop these suckers

[OneMoreDesi]

Just couldn't stop sharing my experience with you all..

7-8 years back, when I came to the US as a student, had a DESI prof who seemed to be really kind. After I am done with his course, he invited me to his home for dinner and started sharing the business plan..
I did not think twice as - it was my prof who is highly educated, suggesting the idea. Also it seemed to me like easy money.
I enrolled the same night.

With the new vigor and enthusiasm I contacted 3 of my closest friends and got all of them introduced to the business.
Thats when my prof and other guys from different places started calling me every day that I am "fired up" and I have a great potential to become a "diamond" (termed used if one has more than a certain number of people under oneself). They used to invite me for meetings twice every week (imagine that when I was already taking 4 courses in school) and mostly out of state.. I realised that it is no longer fun - I used to be away from phone. After this happened a few times the prof came directly to my home to inquire if I am fine and started lecturing about not stopping the initiative that I took.

Then, he mentioned to me that we need to go to Philadelphia for a meeting next week. As my brother was coming from India at that time to join the school, I said I'll join them for the meeting. My phone kept ringing continously next day as they want me to participate in the meeting.. Finally, I thought I'll be there for an hour and took my brother along with me to a Sheraton hotel. As soon as I went there, my prof asked me to quickly pay 80 X 2 = 160 for both me and my brother and join the conference.

I told him that I don't have any money, he suggested me to take money from the ATM nearby. There are some other guys who came and all started saying that I have a great future in this business and started giving me all the crap. I was so mad, I said I'll not pay a single cent to sit in a meeting listening to the success stories of others. Then they said that they believe in me that I had a great future.
I said to my prof - "Of all the people you must know how hard it is to earn money - I work like a dog for 20 hrs every week to earn $80-90 and you want me to squander that for a stupid meeting.. If you really think I have a great future you pay for the meeting on my behalf" Then they all took a step back and started saying this business doesn't work that way. I said "screw it " I am not part of this business any more (All this conversation/argument went on for 30-45 minutes).
I said sorry to my three friends and returned them the $100 (after I got a job) that they invested to join the stupid businss.
I am very opinionated when it comes to Amway or Quixtar - I hate them to core.. I sure call those guys who meet me in malls/walmarts to my home and rip them off with hundreds of questions and finally say what kind of low life forms they are ..I try to help them and share some of the facts how, they are wasting their time and others time.

[poragoru]

Just couldn't stop sharing my experience with you all..

7-8 years back, when I came to the US as a student, had a DESI prof who seemed to be really kind.

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Thats when my prof and other guys from different places started calling me every day that I am "fired up" and I have a great potential to become a "diamond" (termed used if one has more than a certain number of people under oneself).

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Sorry to hear your situation. It's good that you dropped off without wasting more time. Most of the intelligent people do drop off sooner or later and that's why it's almost impossible to become a "diamond" (and those Amyway people never mention that). Only dumb and hopeless people wait for "diamond".

[DesiDude]

I am gonna keep some pepper spray with me, the next time they approach me they are gonna get a face full of it. thats all they deserve.

one of my friends was approached by one of these leeches in Fry's. my friend told him that the next time he gets approacehd by that guy he was gonna take him to security.

lo behold the same guy approaches my friend the very next week. my Friend held his hand and started dragging him to security. the leech got $hit scared and ran away.
LOL

[Iamsam]

I am sam but I am not AMway. It is not my way.
I first encountred this Amway pest back in 1990. When I first came to US 25 years ago we used run after Indian if we see one in the street and make friendship, help them with getting SS card, a job,shelter etc. Becasue then we had only handful of Indians in here. Today, if I see an Indian I have to run away from them, even thogh they chase me "Hello".
I met DDAAs boasting that they want to be their own boss, and found the same DDAA with a MS in Mechanical Engineering working for minimum wage jobs.
These DDAAs teach watching TV is waste of time, but instead after work hours they roam around shopping malls, Wallmart for 'bakras'.
Last week one guy approached me with stereo type introduction, and want to expand his business and help our community. I told him if he can come up with at least $500000 investiment I do business, otherwise I gave him my card and said if he needs a job come to my office and get a job.
I met DDAA s who said they want to retire in 3 years but still going to work for the last 15 years. When I visited India my friends were asking me that " There are nobel prize winners in Amway. Is that true?" These DDAs have no family values and disgrace to our community