Are South Indian gals sexier than North Indian gals?

[Fierce Dravidian]

Do South Indian girls have different body types from North Indian girls? I've only witnessed South Indian girls in "western style" clothing (other than traditional dress) and for the most part it suits them well. Are North Indian girls overly concerned about their skin tones??, they seem to dress traditionally more than any other types of dress codes; maybe their physiques are not compatible with "western" wear. Anyway whose better? South Indian girls versus North Indian ones. Bengli ladies like Bipaha Basu and Sushmitha are super hot! though maybe Sushmitha has become skinnier laterly. And just imagine a hot brown skinned South Indian lady in a saree! Does it get any better than this? South Indian girls look great both ways - traditional and "western".

I AM THE FEROCIOUS DRAVIDIAN.

[Fierce Dravidian]

get some serious opinions here ok? Is it true that South Indian ladies are super damned hot! and the girls in the North are alright, but the South side girls are babes.

[rahul]

Depends, what kind of babes u like. if u like black dark beauties then def for u, SI girls are babe. I am not saying blk girls r not babes. it depends on ur taste. looks like u like blk beauties, good 4 u

[Fierce Dravidian]

beautifully proportioned! But you seem to have a very limited understanding of what South Indian girls look like generally, do you? Yes South Indians have black skinned (other than the shades of brown) people but so do many of the people in the North like Rajasthan, the Santali and and among many Bengalis. Me personally, I have no strict preference to skin tones, I admire the fair, brown and very dark skin colours also all of which are available in America.

Here now tell me this. Are there physical differences between South and North Indian girls? And how did you know that I like black women??

and Rahul, would you have any idea as to what Sri Lankan Velallas look like typically in terms of physical appearence?

Fierce Dravidian.

[rahul]

I have been to Hyd/BGlore and i do know how they look like, how they talk, how they dress. Also I have seen SI girls here in USA. I don't want to offend any SI but i didn't find in any difference that SI girls are babes here, adopted or mixed up with americans. They are dressing, walking, talking like the same way they do in SI. If you will go to any indian mkt or american shopping mall and observe SI girls, you won't find any difference except the surrondings. They are living here just like in SI. I am not complaining, that's their culture and if that whats make them happy, then i am very happy about them.

As far as ur liking is concern, for u SI girls r babe and that's why i said that looks like u like blk beauties and i believe there is nothing wrong with it.

[Fierce Dravidian]

everyone! How do you feel about Latin ladies Rahul?

[Fierce Dravidian]

the US and India? Do they have a certain way of talking? And how are the Northern girls different? Are they more conservative?

[guest]

Where the hell did you get the notion that south indian girls are better ? North Indians girls are generally taller, thiner and well proportioned than south indian girls. All south Indiangs girls (women!) I have met are usually small in height, fat in the hips and dark in complexsion. while complexion may not be an issue for some, some indians do prefer fair skin. So Mr. firce, wake and and see the diference. Northies are definitly more smarted than southies !!!!

[Fierce Dravidian]

South Indian ladies can be as tall as 6 feet if you pay closer attention! Punjabis tend to frequently be obese; Punjabi speakers are probably much heavier than Gujarathis, but then for all South Asians generally skinnieness is a common racial factor. You obviously don't like full figured and dark skinned women but then why have you forgotten that north Indians such as Punjabi speakers are usually large. And hey a young South Indian lady in a beautiful saree is far more appealing than the North Indian dress or Punjabi dress or whatever.

Mr. Ferocious.

[Fierce Dravidian]

Indian ladies what are the observable differences between South and North ladies. Traditional and "Western" dress, someone has to do a comparison. Does anyone here believe that South Indian ladies are distinctive looking from other women in physical appearence?

[guest]

Q. Does anyone here believe that South Indian ladies are distinctive looking from other women in physical appearence?

Ans. Yes. They are distrinctly uglier.

Take it from a neutral observer. Southie Ladies are bad to look at. I will never in my wildest dreams think of ever dating a south indian lady. I am talking in general terms, of coursethere are exceptions to evrything. There may be some SI ladies that are good to look at, but out of every 10 SI lady, 8 will be useless. 1 may be OK, 1 may be geniunly good looking.

[North Indian]

GET A LIFE Dravidian !!! North Indian or south indian, Indian girls are beautiful inside out and it'll be a miracle if with your attitude, you'll get either!

[vurve]

:eek:

Sometimes this forum can be so pointless, that one can endanger one's life due to an extremely violent attack of laughter

Ahhhhhhhhaaaaahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Next Thread : Are South Indian dosas better than North Indian Samosas :rolleyes:

[surajsri]

Too much hype about indian beauties. Just visit a mall in america and you will find our desis babes are no-way comparable. in india 1 in 10 is beautiful and here it may be 7 in 10 are beautiful ...

regarding desi males...less said the better...

[bose_software]

TRY to GET a Good girl fot YOU ...

[sanjcher]

its a hard choice to say who is hotter, SI OR NI girls. there are the ugly ones in both categories. SI r slightly darker i agreee, and maybe a tad bit slimmer. thats all i can say. but latin american girls r fuckin hot man. aaaah look at that booty and body. damn wat a good F**K tasty meat. lol muuuaaahhh ahahaha

[vurve]

Use a thermometer, dork! :D

[malla]

I agree. The reason is that Desi "Bakras" (male) get beautiful wifes because the girl parents think their daughter should stay in US and think it as a dignity. That's why u see beatiful girls and ugly males in US..

just an observation...

[neha_06]

I am not saying all NI gals are better than the southies, but...plzzzzzz......can u even compare the personality , confidence etc etc of a NI gal with SI gal. we stand out any day!!!! :cool: :rolleyes:

[greatIndian]

This guy talks like a real pimp. You got to be out of you insane mind buddy. You are saying the NI gals confidence is greater than SI ???? Oh my god, this is the most ridiculous think i ever heard. The only thing they are confident is in showing themself off and screwing around with many men, so that some pimp like you can sell them. Shutup buddy and do some other business.

[Ndelhi]

I think you sound more professional to me.
You sure know your business.. MR GREAT INDIAN.

[neha_06]

The most ridiculous thing as of now is that u being an indian dont know that neha is not a guy's name ......cant blv someone can be this ignorant. More so i hope u have heard what they say " the grapes are sour when u cant get them"........man i am sure thats the case with u. Open ur eyes and look around Mr great Indian, ignorance isnt a bliss anymore LOLZ...... :D :eek:

[neha_06]

thanks :o

[Ndelhi]

Hey Neha.. even I thought the same of MR GREAT INDIAN.. wat a shame that he doesn't know that 'Neha' so typically a female name..

These kinda ppl should be simple ignored...n u chill buddy..!! we all know that NI are way better than SI...need no further explaination... :cool:

[greatIndian]

Here we go with these stupid morons, Ndelhi & neha_06. What kind of arguments these idiots makes seems really silly. Who the heck cares if you are male or female or any thing else :rolleyes: . You guys aruments itself makes you much much less better than southies. I am having a lot of fun chatting with these idiots. Come up with some thing good my pathetic morons. :D

[Ndelhi]

And we are having fun too...reading your superb english.."What kind of arguments these idiots makes seems really silly"

Go on we like the entertainment as well....wat say you neha??? Only when you'll grow out of your yem (M) &Yen (N) only then you can think of developing a personality...

best of luck..

[greatIndian]

Speaking of which the NI pronounce of lot of words are really funny and ridiculous :p
When ever a northie pronounce words like “Earth”, “Machine” it’s like watching a comedy movie. Hi Ndelhi can you pronounce these words properly. I bet u can’t !!!! haaaaaaa!!!!

[Ndelhi]

well honestly this is the most ridiculous argument I have ever had... :) you sure are funny...!

[neha_06]

What is the difference between the currency of Japan "yen" and the letter 'N' :confused: and then we'll talk abt pronounciations ok!!!!!! And talking of morons, call us whatever u like, but the fact remains that no NI girl is ever gonna go out with u , so y ru taking out ur frustration here :rolleyes: .......let it go man , learn to be happy with what u have :D and now plz plz dont say that " no no no I never wanted to go out with a NI , i was just saying generally", hihihihi :p

[greatIndian]

Thanks for proving me right. I could stand by my word that I wrote on my first posting (on May5th). The first thing that is crossing this girl's filthy mind is dating, going out and screwing around. You are damn right I have never imagined going out with a NI and never will in the future. Are you kidding, I would rather die instead of going out with NI. The sooner you come out of this filthy world better for you.

[neha_06]

AAHH well ur too boring to reply too..........have fun with ur southies and as for us :( , we will try to survive without a gem like u :D

[Ndelhi]

Thats right Neha

I stopped writing back coz hes so out of context.... its like you talk about London and he'll write back about Tokyo..!

You are right hume kahan milega aisa 'HERA' :D hes one of a kind the ... :rolleyes:

[greatIndian]

Good you guys are giving up. I am not surprised why you are feeling bored. I guess you are not able to withstand the truth of my argument. Ethugu perru thaan neethi adi :)

[kiransalu]

To Great Indian
Thalai Kalakeeteenga...

Siva, Nellai Mavattam.

[csingh]

Hey GreatIndian and Kiransalu,

Can either of you please translate into English what you said?? :)

Also, what language is that??

Thanks!!

[greatIndian]

Hi csingh,

I appreciate your interest to know what I wrote, but could you help me so that I can know what “Ndelhi” wrote in his/her last posting and especially the last line. What language is that and what does that mean? :D

Hi kiransalu,

Nandri thaliva, neerum nellayin maienthana? Meegavum santhosom. :)

Regards,
GreatIndian.

[csingh]

okay...we have a deal then...

Ndelhi wrote in Hindi. "humey kahan mileyga aisa HERA" means "where will we find a gem (diamond) like him" :)

Hope that helps...your turn now to translate!!

[Ndelhi]

MR GREAT INDIAN FYI

Theres a difference between giving up and wasting time..we find it a sheer waste of time, energy and thoughts to reply to your boring and out of context posts.

You sure must be a hero among the SI girls... :D
The coolest dude :cool: around them obviously says a lot about their choice and personality.

Enjoy your status..!! :)

[greatIndian]

Hi csingh,

You seem to be a very reasonable person. I appreciate that. I wrote in Tamil. It is a colloquial expression. The close meaning for that is “This is what a knock-out punch is”. :)

Regards,
GreatIndian

[greatIndian]

Hi Ndelhi

You go and see the thread fully and figure out who went out of the context and who did not. Who started out saying “if you don’t know the gender of a person then it is a shame on you”, “your English pronunciation is bad so you are worthless”. It seems like you need to be read back what you wrote. Know yourself before you speak out.

None of these matters, what really matter is: Are you a kind enough person? Can you like the people from other parts of the world? Can you stop yourself from talking down on other people? Can you stop yourself from hating people because of their color, language, etc? Answer yourself before you could post any nonsense. I am not saying everybody is bad, but I could see the hatred in nega and ndelhi. Change yourself buddies, world is changing, get over it.

[Ndelhi]

Mr.GreatIndian

You too should take a close look at the thread as it was you who started with dirty language and called Neha with names which you shouldn't have specially if you knew that shes a girl.

I agree with what you said in your last post but unfortunately please check back that it was you who made it all so nasty by calling a girl a 'pimp'

If you are talking about being kind enough to others then think if you did the same.We all know that there are all types of people living in this world and its not neccessary that all of us like each other but whats important is that we must not harm one another.

I am not here to look down upon any person/religion/state or culture but I sure look down upon people who have a bad attitude and foul language now be it a north Indian or a south Indian.

When things become nasty then no one is better than the other wheather a SI or a NI.So its important to practise what you preach.

Thanks
Ndelhi.

[greatIndian]

Hi Ndelhi,

You are right, that’s exactly what I did. I did talk down on nega, why, because she had a bad attitude when she said in her initial posting, let me quote her, “can u even compare the personality , confidence etc etc of a NI gal with SI gal. we stand out any day!!!!”. You didn’t dare to talk down on her when she said that with an attitude and hatred and now you are preaching me.

Remember, I have every right to talk down on people who are racist and have bad attitude. I didn’t started out on this, she did. She talked down on people because she doesn’t like any other race than her race. I will never talk down on people because of their race. I like everybody, I do have a lot of very good North Indian friends, but there are a lot of people in north who are racist. So don’t try to preach me. I know what I am doing and what I am talking about.

Regards,
GreatIndian.

[csingh]

Come on people, let us not sit around arguing about "South Indians vs North Indians"...it is a really pointless debate and will get us nowhere.

I don't think there is any way we can generalize things here and say stuff like South Indians are not as good or North Indians are racist or whatever.
I think any shortcomings in any of us reflect badly on ALL of us as Indians.

So if Neha and GreatIndian want to go on annoying each other on this forum, please do so by all means but please please do not make it into a North Vs. South debate.

I think it was best summed up by the poster who said "all Indian girls are beautiful and with your attitude you're lucky you'll get one" :D

Thanks!

ps- Great Indian, thanks for the translation. Yeah, I like to think I'm pretty reasonable too (most of the times anyways) :rolleyes:

[neha_06]

Hey Mr great indian thanks for letting me know wat i think and wat i dont, probably u shud read wat others have been writting before i even started and i replied to that , atleast i had the decency not to point fingers at any one particular person , so dont talk like ur the massiah here , coz u r the one who started with the obscene lagnuage.

More so i am not here to pact any friendship deal with u , u showed ur level of thinking and mentality by using such words and ideas, and man i cudnt care less. and ill definitely appeal to authorities that they shud give u some kind of medal for having some good NI friends..... Good morning monsieur its no big deal. it amazes me how u can be such a hypocrite..... first talk like this about NI and then claim that they are ur good friends, only if they cud read wat all u have been writting :mad:

and yeah one more thing , to say things about other prople in a language they cant understand , doesnt really help in proving wat a gentleman ur..........

[greatIndian]

Hi csingh,

Thanks for you comments. I agree with you to most of what you say. Believe me, my intension is also not to create a debate and further divide the people. Even once bitterly fighting nations in Europe are almost coming together to form one nation(EURO), I always feel proud and happy about India being one nation, even thought it has a very diverse communities. But a question always comes to my mind is, are we really united, are there any problems in terms of minorities being oppressed, does the majority community is not willing to even think about this problem. I did have a couple of instances where NI really talked down on me, just because I was a southie, and my couple of friends had their own experience too. I am pretty sure I didn’t do any thing to aggravate these guys to talk like that. Off course it was a casual talk (sarcastic), so I couldn’t argue with them, but it still hurt my feelings. I guess what I want is a healthy argument about these problem in order to address the issue so that at least some of the folks would change in their attitude. I don’t want this discussion to be in this forum, but I wish people have this discussion at their home, with their family and friends.

Regards,
GreatIndian

[csingh]

Yeah, sure I understand what you are saying. It would hurt anybody to be talked down to or made fun of just because some ignorant fool has certain misconceptions about where they're coming from.
I know its hurful to listen to that kind of talk, but you should simply dismiss these people for who they are (ignorant fools).

I guess there is so much diversity in India and the cultures (right from language, food, everything) are so different from one part of the country to the other that often it results in lack of understanding and sensitivity to others'. These differences then manifest in all these north vs south stereotyping...

You are right about us not being united enough. You only have to follow all the 'north vs south' threads on this forum to understand that. While some people just add their 2 bits to have fun, there are others who really spew venom and very few who would actually say something balanced or reasonable. The most worrisome is that most folks write posts full of hate and seem to mean what they say.

This could be the start of a new discussion thread but I feel that it too will soon degenerate into a "I hate you southies/northies..." session :(

[sweetlittlegirl]

These talks suck. Do u guys ever think ,are u handsome enuff to deserve a BEAUTY.

Although Beauty lies in eyes of the beholder. But lets not forget...Surat se jyada Seerat achi honi chaiye. :mad: on Fierce Dravidian

[DesiDude]

Guest Said
"Where the hell did you get the notion that south indian girls are better ? North Indians girls are generally taller, thiner and well proportioned than south indian girls. All south Indiangs girls (women!) I have met are usually small in height, fat in the hips and dark in complexsion. while complexion may not be an issue for some, some indians do prefer fair skin. So Mr. firce, wake and and see the diference. Northies are definitly more smarted than southies !!!!"

u need to get out of the hole u have been living in or maybe get a brain transplant !!

[DesiDude]

Idiot said
*****
Q. Does anyone here believe that South Indian ladies are distinctive looking from other women in physical appearence?

Ans. Yes. They are distrinctly uglier.

Take it from a neutral observer. Southie Ladies are bad to look at. I will never in my wildest dreams think of ever dating a south indian lady. I am talking in general terms, of coursethere are exceptions to evrything. There may be some SI ladies that are good to look at, but out of every 10 SI lady, 8 will be useless. 1 may be OK, 1 may be geniunly good looking.
*****

Dude,
go to Lenscrafters and get ur eyes checked out, even better swing by my house i can poke ur eyes out. Where ru u from to be a neutral observer ?? Mars !!!! I am sure ur one of those egotistical, self concious, shallow, moronic, brainless Indian guys in the US spoiling the name of Indians here.

[DesiDude]

surajsri said
"Too much hype about indian beauties. Just visit a mall in america and you will find our desis babes are no-way comparable. in india 1 in 10 is beautiful and here it may be 7 in 10 are beautiful ... "



I sure ur the ugliest indian dude in the US who has not touched a woman, let alone an american woman !!!!

[DesiDude]

Neha said
"but the fact remains that no NI girl is ever gonna go out with u , so y ru taking out ur frustration here "

woohoo !!! Arent SI guys lucky that NI girls like urself think like that. I am sure they wud rather stay home alone than go out with a girl like you(be it NI or SI).

[Sunny]

This is a post in the experience section of the website posted by a north indian for all south indians... how true is all this? U will also read why all the self proclaimed 'Great Indians' hate all the north indians here..

Njoy

1. Keep long names. Names should be of atleast 4 words and each word should be atleast 10 characters long. Afterall, the longer the name, lesser the probability of sharing it with someone!! If words fall short add "an" in the end e.g. swaminathan, gopinathan, karthikeyan etc etc.
2. Add fathers name, grandfathers name, village name, street name whatever to identify you, afterall you dont have any identity of your own.
3. Use "H" after every "T" and "D" in all nouns, but dont pronouce the "H".
4. Make decoration outside your house with WHITE chalk, and call it RANGoli !!!
5. Wear lungis and fold them upwards to reveal your magnificient legs
6. Wear the most old fashioned and dull shirt (light brown and dirty cream is the way to go) match it with a brown trouser (if office ppl dont allow lungis of course) match it with equally dull sandals (wearing shoes is prohibited by culture), dont tuck in the shirt and walk taking short steps and shaking your butt. Give every impression that you are a homo (half of you actually are)
7. Wear a 100 rupee shirt, compare it with a 1000 rupee shirt and argue "whats the difference"
8. After taking bath apply lots of sandal wood paste on your head, after all its a bit lighter than your skin color. also apply it on the neck, chest arms and wherever possible.
9. Mix rice with curd, add salt to it. Eat it with lemon achaar and call it a delicacy.
10. Mix a few grains of daal, oops "dhaal" (read point 3) into a litre of water and call it sambhar.
11. Remove a few grains of "dhaal" from the sambhar and call it rayasam.
12. Remove the entire butter from the lassi and call it "butter milk".
13. Make sabzi mixed with coconut, cook it in coconut oil, add coconut to thicken the gravy, garnish it with dry coconut and eat with "parotas" alongwith coconut chutney! wait you are eligible to do that only if you have applied coconut oil to your head.
14. Make the smallest house on the smallest site possible and raise it to 3-4 storeys and put them on rent or better still make a PG.
15. Make houses so close to each other so that sunlight and fresh air doesnt get inside and humidity and stink doesnt get outside. 16. Make the smallest possible toilet in one corner and isolate it from the rest of the world by having no outlets for the gases and foul odor to keep the environment clean!
17. Have no flush in the toilets to save water!
18. Do engineering after your school. After all your father, mother, brother, sister, grandfather, uncle are engineers.
19. Bastardise the english oops yenglish language. Mind your "YEMs" and "YOs". Make atleast 10 grammatical mistakes in each sentence. After all its not your mother tongue, you "didnt learnED" it in school and so "cannot able" to speak properly.
20. If you somehow by mistake construct a proper yenglish sentence, scramble the words and leave it to the zig-saw solving abilities of the non south-indians to figure it out.
21. Hate people from any other part of the world, especially north-indians as they make you realize your miserable lifestyle by having a extravagent lifestyle.
22. Wash your feet in the bathroom before eating. Wash hands at the place where you eat and throw water on the floor, to prove that you are not dirty!
23. Screw up things and exclaim "aiyoooo thuuuu"

[greatIndian]

So what's you point Sunny?

[greatIndian]

Hi riba9,

What a shame on you for promoting this hatred. I am pretty sure who ever came up with this sick humor might have been kicked in his/her a** by a southie for wrong doing. Do you really believe this is applicable only for certain people? I can bet money that anybody in this world can come up with such nonsense against any body. All you need is a sick mind and a lot of time to kill (off course with out a job, without a good family, etc).

What do you mean by ‘no offence’? Off course you are offending other people and what is there to laugh about. I couldn’t think of any other reason except you should also be as sick as the other. You should feel bad about that and get some medication. I bet your parents would feel bad for bringing you to this earth. What a corrupt mind. May God help these people.

Great Indian.
I love India, I love every Indian. I hate all kind of sick people.

[riba9]

hey chill guys,

can't i laugh also? i know it was a nasty piece of joke, and i mentioned that also. but it just made me laugh. that's it. but yes, i did put it on the post, which might have offended some of u. well! as a matter of fact, this NI/SI fight is too much of BS. there's no end to it, really.
and how do u guys know that i am not a Southy myself. c'mon, everyone cracks jokes on Punjus, and they take it with a pinch of salt.why can't the other people do it as well? it's just something put up in a funny manner.

sunny might have intended to make a point at the southies, i don't know,but it's nothing more to me than a good laugh.
and as for this thread, u can either go ahead and continue this NI/SI fight, and if that's not enough, personally attack people who r here.

anyways,
best of luck.

[mumbaiguy26]

There is nothing wrong in Riba loling over some joke. And morever she has pointed out the truth. And if someone is offended, so be it. We are free to discuss here.

My experience with my fellow tamil friends at work are:

-- They always talk in Tamil. Hindi is taboo to them only because it is made a national language. Arrogance rule here if tried to convince them that we are indians first.
-- Only talk about chennai and ignore rest of India.
-- They would only talk in Tamil in office. Fellow office co-workers have to bear all nonsense as if it is thier birth right. Ethics is far far away.

I could go on. I am not saying this of all Tamilians. Only those who refuse to grow up like the one in my office. We are/should be proud of culture. But projecting just one culture as best is not fair. We are all Indians and human beings. Everyone is proud of themselves. Lets respect each other.




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And this is the funniest line I heard from my fellow tamil friend at work way back......"When Ek Duje Ke Liye movie was a hit, All north Indian girls were after south Indian boys(read chennai boys)."

[greatIndian]

I have seen my posting and couple of other's posting are removed from this thread. How could this happen. If it is done has a policy, can you disclose your policy on what gets removed and what not. It would make things clear if we should even worry about sending in our comment or not.

Thanks.

[greatIndian]

I see, there is no answer to my question for the site Admin. I bet he/she is reading all the posting, but couldn’t answer my question. This is pathetic and complete misuse of power. These admins should keep themselves off the subject and not involve in it. They seem to remove/edit what ever they want and there by putting their view on the subject. This will diminish the forum in the long run and people would hate to come to this site in general. Why don’t you answer my question buddy?

[riba9]

didn't u still get ur answer !?!

[p2uadmin]

here is your answer:
http://forum.path2usa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6790

I think after readin the post you get the answer.
Every person has their own prespective to view the things, PLEASE do not make any further agrument on why a Particular post has been deleted.

I hope you an other understand.

Thanks for your understanding.

[greatIndian]

I appreciate your answer to my question. I read your posting about the rules. It is good to know that you have rules and regulation on what gets posted on the forum. Once again I have to appreciate you for coming up and make it clear. I understand it’s up to you to decide on what gets deleted and what not. I am not here to make any future argument, but I want to make my view here which is that your decisions to remove has not been very fare. I am wondering how come you have not removed the posting by Sunny on 06-19-2005, 08:20PM, which is noting but rude, insulting a section of people and inflammatory post. I would appreciate if you could remove that too. But off course your decision is final, but would make you more fare and balanced.

Thanks,

[mumbaiguy26]

If sunny's post is rude and insulting, what about the following line by you :

"Hi riba9, What a shame on you for promoting this hatred."

That was rude to riba9, who I believe had no intention to insult anyone.

And while we are talking of censorship, I think the best would be to delete the whole thread. Makes no sense and such posts should not be allowed. The members who starts such posts should be banned.


ASCII stupid question, Get a stupid ANSII.

[EvEiL]

omg ARE U BLIND!!!
NO OFFENCE BUT THEM SI CHIX GOT MOUSTACH N BEARD N SHITT N WAYYYY 2 MUCH HAIR TO SEE NETING ELSE!!

they shd put em in gillette advertisements:D

[swami]

I have been in Madras for 3 years and HYD for 2 years and kind of know aobut how the boys in the region things about girls they want to marry or fall in love with.

Most the SI boys looks for skin color. If she is of kind of white sikked that it!! The boy will be mad, and usually avoid a lot of attention to the face of the girl.

About the overall look it is been already posted. Rahul, seems from south india and tries to promote his girls. One has right to do so. At the same time one has to be rational about it.

[KZDDD]

a li'l late in replying but i think GUJARATI girls are theee best

[sukesh]

Suddenly i got into this and now I cant leave wihout replying.Definetly South Indian ladies have an edge over the other ladies.Being myself a south indian lady of 51(!),and travelled to different parts of the world and presently in USA , my ego is satisfied when American men simply stunned by two feet long dark hair,and browny skin;it is not only American white and black but some North indian men also after me hi hihi hi.My American friend told me last week that men anywhere in the world prefer ladies with long hair;he said maintaining that hair shows that we would take pains to maintain relationships(?).The browny skin and which is soft and smooth if we donot go for so much make up all the time tickles them.A student in my school recently came to me and asked for the reason and ways to keep the smooth soft and glowing face! I am not making all these up.100%true incidents I am quoting. And more over South Indian ldies shows some shy and timidity in the begginning which is the on button for many men.Of course we all are not Sridevi,Jayaprada,Hemamalini or Vaijayantimala,but we do have our share.

[riba bg]

Sukesh mam (i would think this was a guy's name! anyways)...........i first read ur post quite a few days back, and thought best not to reply at the heat of the moment.
well! first of all good to hear that u r attracting attention and compliments from the American junta (read men) and r able to keep lovely long hair and peaches and cream complexion even at the age of 51.
but what i could not understand was how did u arrive to the conclusion that u r the general rule for every SIndian woman? well! i was sorry to hear that even after traveling the world and having a lot of experience as regards to ur age, u would still care to hold such a view point and participate in a discussion for NIndian women vs the SIndian ones! with all due respect to u, i would think that any educated woman of ur calibre would've noted that charm has nothing to do with what ur racial background is.
as for the compliments that u've got from men, that way every woman getting a compliment would think that it is not her, but the race that she comes from. amazing!
as for that man saying long hair means strong/long relationships............haven't heard of a more ridiculous deduction lately.
if there is an aishwariya, there is also a sushmita.............for a hema malini, there is alo a nafisa joseph, sharmila tagore, etc.. all the so called beautiful women we know.......lara dutta, priety zinta, priyanka, malaika arora, and many more..............i think they can thank their genes, if at all, not the state they originally belong to.
it is a shame that even today when we r talking about progressive and constructive societies, as Indians we r getting education, money, and living abroad, our mindsets can't go beyond our cultural biases. this may sound cliched, but is really true.

[csingh]

Riba, excellent post. You took the words right out of my mouth about how ridiculous the last post sounded.
Yeah, maybe guys associate 2 feet long hair with willingness to nurture a relationship.....in 1778!!
..and my advise to all the women out there: if you ever come across a man who holds that kind of a point of view; run in the opposite direction, as fast as you can! :D

[greatIndian]

Well said riba. I agree with you. The beauty is a very subjective thing and it has nothing to do with race or even age. I guess it is even beyond the external outlook. There are beautiful people all over the world, what really matter is how kind hearted you are.

BTW csingh, I do like girls with long hair, and I am sure I have nothing to do with 1778 :D . Anyway it’s just me, but I know exactly what you mean. :)

[csingh]

hehehe...GreatIndian, I hope I didn't offend you. Nothing against guys liking long hair....just the idea of any guy saying he likes long hair because it shows a willingness to commit or whatever as opposed to just liking long hair because it looks good/hot etc :D

[poragoru]

Sukesh mam (i would think this was a guy's name! anyways)...........i first read ur post quite a few days back, and thought best not to reply at the heat of the moment.

I think this is a male, posing as 51 old woman. The way she is expessing herself and the words she is using (e.g. "ladies", "shy and timidity") , it convinced me that she is a male - south indian male to be precise.



as for the compliments that u've got from men, that way every woman getting a compliment would think that it is not her, but the race that she comes from. amazing!

I think that's a sign of "timidity" she (actually "he") described :) - when a person does not recognize her own calibre and accomplishments but rather thinks her race or society is responsible for it. If this thought is really coming from a woman's mind (I doubt) that indicates that chauvinistic society accomplised it's goal indeed! :D Being a male I am sooo happy!!!!!!!! Just kidding!

[va123]

I love your posts, I love your sarcaism in it. They are just hilarious. I couldnt stop laughing. 5 stars to you dude :)

[Veryblunt]

All girls are sexy for atleast one men on this planet ;) ...and anyways one will find every girl sexy depending on what mood he is in ;) :p

LOL ....

[honey2usa]

I am not a NI/SI but have friends from N & S(I did my masters in S). The difference I see is most of South Indian girls maintain their house clean and neat no matter how busy they are. and they are very courteous to everyone(even to their husband’s).
and one more thing I want to add here is my friends are not dark, they are Wheatish color. I don't understand what color is 'dark'!!!

[csingh]

"The difference I see is most of South Indian girls maintain their house clean and neat no matter how busy they are. and they are very courteous to everyone(even to their husband’s). "


....as opposed to North Indian girls who.....??

The reason the word 'dark' is used here and not 'wheatish' is that not a lot of people know what 'wheatish' is. It's a very 'matrimonial-newspaper-in-India' kind of a term and not much used outside of India.

[Veryblunt]

Well cleaning the house or being nice is not based on North or South but is based on moral values given to a individual by their parents.

I have seen ugliest sides and good sides of both world. I am a northy married to a south indian guy....

My all votes go to them for being good to women, being literate but hate them for their DOWRY system... I dont say northy dont have dowry system they do but not to extent what southy's have.... and ofcourse because they are from tropical weather close to eclipse the skin color is anything from Black to Wheatish... not their fault!!!

Being sexy is not being white or black... one is sexy if he/she has CLASS....
Class per me is not financial status it is a persons character and values.

My granny always used to say SURAT se JYADA LOGON KA SEERAT PASAND Aati hai....
that means more than ur looks it is your character that counts.

Thats what I THINK.

[anthony]

Another proof how short sighted these so called smart and intelligent North Indians are. Mr Sunny saw this hilarous :cool: post about South Indians but did not find the replies for this post. There are not one but two replies. Just go thru.
I am sure you will not miss this atleast... (cos u r smart, intelligent....)


Really pity some people like Naveen for his lack of awareness and still feeling like knowing everything.
A true north Indian.
You have all the facts wrong and then go on to draw conclusions from ur assumptions.
You make fun of Sambar.
Since u r smart and intelligent(as u urself have claimed) would definetely want to get facts right.I would ask u to go to any South Indian Restaurant and have a look at people coming there.North Indians come more in no. there than South Indians.
You people enjoy south Indians dishes and make fun of them.
You said they expose their legs wearing lungis.
What r u guys doing wearing shorts.You feel that is modern. then why dont u wear shorts in India too.Why wear shorts only here.u do it just bcos americans do it.u want to imitate americans and still feel above south indians who have their own self esteem without copying anyone. pity u.
I agree south indians dont speak good Hindi but for ur information south indians speak better english than north indians.Most of u north indians do small time odd jobs whereas most of the south indians here are into decent jobs.It is for u to judge(If at all u r open enough to accept facts)who r smart or intelligent or whatever.
U criticize them for doing engineering and u feel u r above them doing small time odd jobs. And u call urself intelligent.
They wear dull shirts coz it suits their skin color.They do it bcoz they have some dress sense and not just copy americans without thinking if it is right or wrong. And dull shirts are better than the cheap Tshirts u get from kmart which most of u guys wear.
You copy americans and feel superior to people not doing the same thing.
c'mon man, grow up.If someone is superior to u in some aspects, accept it.Shed ur inferiority complex.Just don't keep critizing them since u have a loud mouth.

My reply is only to this guy and does not intend to address all north indians.

There is good and bad with both north and south indians or for that matter anyone.Its not proper to categoize good or bad based on regions.

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Well said Anthony.This guy compares the rural of South with the metros of North.
For ur info Naveen
decoration outside house with WHITE chalk is done in rural areas and it is an age old culture.
100 rupee shirts are worn by poor people in the South and not everyone.
rice with curd, and lemon achaar is a delicacy among certain people whose income is low.
U might have wandered into some forests in the south and seen people eating on leaves.No one here eats on leaves.As far as I know they use disposable plates.why don't u comment on people using disposable plates instead of the steel or ceramic plates.Is it just bcos it is american.
Tell me frankly have u ever used disposable plates in India.But I am sure u r using it here.Just bcos americans use it.And for people like u whatever an american does is modern.And u criticise others.Shame on u.
And how does it matter what ever they call, Sambar or rasam.
How would u feel if they make fun of u making a paste of aata with water, heating it and calling different names like roti, chapati, Naan .... etc.
You critise them for removing butter but lump up anything here that is "fat free".And for your information butter milk and lassi are used more by north indians than south indians.
How come people so intelligent and smart like you don't know this.

Guys, have some habits of ur own.Just don't copy whatever is done by americans and insult people who want to continue with their own habits.
The most funny part of all ur posting was u criticising people for doing engineering as if it were something abnormal.And u guys call yourself smart,intelligent and ..................
It reminds me of the saying "A mad man thinks he is perfect and the whole world is mad".

[Veryblunt]

I am glad you mentioned it is not for all NI's.
Well we all make fun of each other... all NI's calls south indians "MAdrasi" well not all of SI's are madrasi's...same way SI's call all NI's Sardarji's...not all NI's are sardars
Making fun of sambhar and lungi is something silly, well SI's make fun of Nan's and Tandoori chicken but Si's love NI food... I can prove it...
As they say opposites attract... NI's love SI food...(i love it to death) and SI's love NI food (my hubby loves it to death).

Well I dont personally like people wearing lungi because then fold it way high and when they sit they sit with there legs spread wide and the whole world can be seen and it is quite annoying. Shorts are fine how much ever ur legs are wide they wont reveal much.

I hate one thing about Chennai that being in India they don't use Hindi which is National Lanaguage, regardless of mother tounge one has to learn national language and in Chennai they indeed assault u if u speak hindi... Fu** them.

I am proud we have such variations in cultures gives more variety in life. NI or SI lets stop discriminating and see how everyone will appreciate one another.

[poragoru]

I hate one thing about Chennai that being in India they don't use Hindi which is National Lanaguage, regardless of mother tounge one has to learn national language and in Chennai they indeed assault u if u speak hindi...

There are three main reasons:

1. Hindi was made national language without any proper debate and practicality. In today's world of globalization, how many people speak Hindi? So, why should a Tamil speak Hindi when people in Hindi belt speak in English? As a medium of communication, Hindi was/is never a practical language for whole India. The label "national language" was put forcibly on it. It's meaningless when whole Indian talks in their local languages and use English for inter-community communications.

2. Tamil is lot older language than Hindi. Tamil people started talking in Tamil long before Hindi language is started. And it's lot richer than Hindi (literature etc, in my opinion). Guess what, after Munshi Premchand it seems most of the hindi-speaking writers are interested to write books/movels in English (or Urdu if it's peotry).

3. Grammatically south Indian languages are lot different from north indian languages. It needs some extra effort to learn Hindi for a South Indian. Same problem comes up for when North Indian tries to learn South Indian language. How many North Indians learn South Indian language when they travel or settle in South India?

Even though I do not support some Tamil people who drive this fanatism (not speaking Hindi) to extreme (and that includes misbehaving, mistreating Hindi speaking people), however the basic idea is that when you go/travel/settle to place X you must learn the local language of place X. If I travel to Brazil/Mexico should I expect every local people to speak in English? No, their language is Spanish and it's my duty to learn little bit of Spanish before going there. Same things goes in Germany, Italy or France. When you go there you should learn little bit of German, Italian or French - atleast for communication purpose.

Same rule applies for Chennai. Why should a local Tamil-speaking person has to speak in Hindi? If someone can speak in Hindi, that's great. But if someone cannot, there is no reason to be disappointed or mad about it.

BTW, as in similar aspect, I hear some of complains from Americans about Europe - "those damn Greeks or Italians people don't know English.". Why should they know English? English is a great language for global communications, but that does not mean everybody has to learn and speak this language.

[csingh]

Thanks (yet again) Poragoru for putting this extremely ridiculous thread into some perspective: what started off as a 'meat-market' comparision of Indian women has now spiralled into this pathetic South vs North debate!
Here's how every other post is now: "I don't generalize, but ALL North Indians are Pigs" or "Not everybody is like this, but ALL South Indians are scum"....what the hell? :confused:

and VeryBlunt, much as I appreciate your contributing your thoughts to this forum, I'd appreciate it even more if you turned down the vitriol. I am sure you can make your point without all the F***s and the A***s thrown in. It's completely unnecessary. I hope you don't mind my saying this to you.

No offense to anyone, but this thread makes me sick to my stomach.

[greatIndian]

Hi veryblunt,

Oh!! What an appropriate name you gave for yourself, u are really blunt…!

How foolish you are to tell about Chennai & Hindi. Let us make is clear. I don’t care what the heck with Hindi, it is just another language for me. If you declare it has a national language, it’s up to you to worship it. For me I don’t care. Why in the heck in the current age and time, you are trying to force your language into people who don’t speak that. I guess it is very hard for you to get over it, right? I like the current system in US, constitutionally there is no official language that is real democracy. If we are all calling India a democratic country it includes freedom of religion, freedom of language, etc. Why can’t you understand this simple thing (uhh, you are veryyyyyy blunt, right?).

Second, let me give you a little bit of history, has to why there were Hindi opposition in TN. Let us talk about a village person, who knows how to read/write Tamil, and let us say he goes to a post office in his village and tries to send a money order. Guess what the form is in? It is in Hindi. Tell me you feel very proud about that. Tell me you feel very proud about India being democratic. You idiot!! I can’t believe you are not getting this.

Let me summaries this. In TN, we are not against Hindi, we are ONLY against Hindi being forced upon us. As a country, we don’t need to have just one national language. We can all coexists, as a single country, even thou we talk different language, and not force the majority language on minorities. Also in order for you to appreciate the feelings of TN people you need to know the history of our language, if you not, you would be only talking thrash.

[**h**]

Well said greatIndian. All private schools in Chennai teach Hindi and I read/speak hindi though not very fluent. There is nothing wrong in not knowing Hindi.

Veryblunt,
Dowry system is common in India and not just South India. If your South Indian hubby has taken lot of dowry from you or your parents fight for it and give the money back to your parents.

[Veryblunt]

One more ABCD here...
well what an inappropriate name GREAT INDIAN.... u not even proud of your country so why choose such a name..your name should be "Cool Dude Yo Man American"....

Well coming to the point:

Hindi is national language not forced on anyone... and hello who says america does not has national language they do for obvious reasons ENGLISH is FIRST LANGUAGE & SPANISH 2nd LANGUAGE...
U certainly seem to be FOB here trying to impress people...but indeed making fool of urself.

Ok have you gone to school ever back in India?
We have uniforms in India...the reason is to avoid discrimination and we have high population of not so rich kids and few rich kids...
Every kid wears a uniform.
Same way our culture is so vast and diverse there has to be a uniformity...that where HINDI comes in picture and 2nd language is the regional language of that state...

Regarding a villager wanting to fill in forms... (seems u have never filled any form and have payed to get it filled) FYI: Every state issues govt. form in regional language also.

Democracy comes in our country first and comes later in your so called USA.
Americans worship their president even though he is an idiot and a terror. We people speak out if we dont like our leaders. Thats democracy.

Our country may be poor but hey ur case seems like this...
A kid from poor family had a rich freind and later disowned his parents saying bloody poor people...

I wish you were born in China and had known true meaning of how it feels to be an Indian.

[**h**]

Well I dont personally like people wearing lungi because then fold it way high and when they sit they sit with there legs spread wide and the whole world can be seen and it is quite annoying. Shorts are fine how much ever ur legs are wide they wont reveal much.




Now I know where you come from. Do you visit slums very often???

[Veryblunt]

Ok regardless of schools teaching Hindi in chennai... I have not seen majority of junta speak Hindi...i have been to Chennai several times... I get very cold treatment and impossible for me to survive there even if it is part of my country...
No one understands or speak hindi over that they look at you so mad they will bite you if u speak hindi and thats been extremes.

I come from Mumbai and Marathi was 3rd language. Hindi, English and Marathi. In Mumbai, Pune, Delhi, Banglore people do speak and understand Hindi... how comes Chennai is an exception?

Learning regional language of Chennai is fine but as a 2nd or 3rd language and not 1st language.

Hey South Indians do take lot of Dowry it is not my personal experience as I am not married to one of those dogs fortunately.
Well as I said South India means (Hyderabad, Karnataka, Chennai and Kerala)
Talk about Andhra people their dowry goes in crores. Kerala Dowry goes in 100 -500 tolas of gold... I am not aware of culture in karnataka and Chennai so no comments.

This is absurd in this age we still give and take dowry... I am sorry for those parents who do whatever to arrange for dowry and get their daughters married.

I come from North India and we all beleive in give and take ...but in north it is not a standard set for dowry it goes by status of family... I have 100's of examples where boys and in laws have gone and taken care of expenses of wedding and just wanted the girl to be there bahu and vice versa.

All i know about SI is they educate their sons to get good dowry... so unfortunate... I wish it changes one day.

[Veryblunt]

Now I know where you come from. Do you visit slums very often???
Ok now that you informed me people in slum wear lungi without undergarments does it mean u come from slum or visit often? Well do not imply things ... I can show you people from slums with more manners and good moral values.

Another message you trying to convey is people in slums who are from modest background r also mannerless... There are very many so called educated people who are pathetic they are educated that is why few words they learned are used often... example... bloody idiot, stupid, A**, F*** you...

Why do we often come accross those rich kids who go and rape and know they are safe...

What I experienced I mentioned you can differ based on what u experienced..
so stop biting.

[poragoru]

Hindi is national language not forced on anyone...

Actually it was forced. Hindi is a regional language - just like any other language - Gujarati, Assamese, Bengali, Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam etc. Why would get Hindi national language status? Other non-Hindi speaking in North, Western or Eastern India (e.g. Punjabi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi) don't complain because their languages are very close to Hindi - easy to learn. But that's not true for South India. Of course they would complain about it. How about making Telegu National Language? Or Manipuri? Or Assamese? Would you love it? Why not?

As I said before, for inter-community or inter-region communications Hindi was/is never a practical language due to the reasons I mentioned above. Just because capital of India is located in Hindi belt that should put Hindi as national language.

The basic flaw in your argument I see is that you are trying to equate "knowing Hindi" with "Indianness". That's wrong. A person can be a good Indian without knowing Hindi.



and hello who says america does not has national language they do for obvious reasons ENGLISH is FIRST LANGUAGE & SPANISH 2nd LANGUAGE...
U.

Where did you get that idea that Spanish is 2nd language?



Same way our culture is so vast and diverse there has to be a uniformity...that where HINDI comes in picture and 2nd language is the regional language of that state...

You are contradicting your own statement. The best way to keep unity of a diverse country is to appreciate diversity. Forcing something on all the people of country in the name of "uniformity" results dissatisfaction in some parts of population. And dissatisfaction causes degeneration of the country. Nobody likes something being forced upon him/her.

I will give you an example from history. You know why Bengladesh became separated from Pakistan? Because Pakistan wanted to force Urdu language on Bengali speaking people. That's how the movement started in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) and eventually resulted separation from Pakistan.

USA is another example where federal govt recognizes the rights of the states. That's why every state has its own constitutions and laws (of course you know the full name of this country - "United States of America"). Federal govt does not tell state govt DMVs whether the driving test should be in English, Spanish, French or Chinese. States decide that according to their own convenience. For example, California provides lots of things in Spanish because there are lots of Spanish speaking people live here. Now, states like Wyoming or Idaho do not need to do that because not many people speak in Spanish in those states. If now federal govt wants to take away state-rights, that can result degeneration of USA too.



Democracy comes in our country first and comes later in your so called USA.
Americans worship their president even though he is an idiot and a terror. We people speak out if we dont like our leaders. Thats democracy.

Don't you think Americans don't speak against president? You got to be kidding! Read today's headline: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/bush.ap/index.html



I wish you were born in China and had known true meaning of how it feels to be an Indian.

Actually the act of imposing Hindi language all over India comes very close to the acts of communist Chinese govt - where govt imposed the languages Eastern part of China to Western part of China and Tibet ruthlessly. The cultures, languages and cultures of Western China and Tibet are lot different from wealthy and powerful Eastern and Southern China. That's the price Western China and Tibet paid in the name of "uniformity"! :rolleyes:

No country is perfect. Every country does mistakes. Imposing Hindi on whole India was a mistake and there is nothing democratic about it, even though India is a democratic country.

[**h**]

I have seen ugliest sides and good sides of both world. I am a northy married to a south indian guy....





Hey South Indians do take lot of Dowry it is not my personal experience as I am not married to one of those dogs fortunately.



Which of your statement is correct?
How can you forget so soon that you are married to a South Indian guy???

[Veryblunt]

Which of your statement is correct?
How can you forget so soon that you are married to a South Indian guy???
Hey **H** have you heard of word EXCEPTIONAL...
thats what I chose to marry...an exception in your SI society...

My both statements still stand correct and true...

Well as they say having six senses is good...but hey you missing on one sense...COMMOM SENSE...

GIVE UP!!!

I am not replying to your messages after this... I post messages with intention to learn and share... u dont fall in category of learning and sharing....u r one of those who come to bite and fight with everyone...

[**h**]

Another message you trying to convey is people in slums who are from modest background r also mannerless... There are very many so called educated people who are pathetic they are educated that is why few words they learned are used often... example... bloody idiot, stupid, A**, F*** you...




I hate one thing about Chennai that being in India they don't use Hindi which is National Lanaguage, regardless of mother tounge one has to learn national language and in Chennai they indeed assault u if u speak hindi... Fu** them.


Why are you using these words?

[**h**]

Veryblunt,

Do not use Profane language in public forums. that will help you in learning and sharing your knowledge in better way.

Good Luck and Good Bye!

[poragoru]

Ok regardless of schools teaching Hindi in chennai... I have not seen majority of junta speak Hindi...i have been to Chennai several times... I get very cold treatment and impossible for me to survive there even if it is part of my country...
No one understands or speak hindi over that they look at you so mad they will bite you if u speak hindi and thats been extremes.

Mistreating or cold behavior on Hindi-speaking people? That's bad!
Not knowing Tamil while traveling/living in Chennai? That's bad too!

[Veryblunt]

Actually it was forced. Hindi is a regional language - just like any other language - Gujarati, Assamese, Bengali, Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam etc. Why would get Hindi national language status? Other non-Hindi speaking in North, Western or Eastern India (e.g. Punjabi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi) don't complain because their languages are very close to Hindi - easy to learn. But that's not true for South India. Of course they would complain about it. How about making Telegu National Language? Or Manipuri? Or Assamese? Would you love it? Why not?

"I agree to what you say....but point is why such opposition? Why is that in Chennai you dare not speak Hindi...I have been there several times and I was warned not to speak in hindi while in chennai, by my freinds from Chennai who ofcourse migrated to west of India." If one expresses that ohhhh I azm not versed with Hindi accepted.. I can never speak SI language fluent but I attempted and can speak a little... " I dont like the Idea of rebelling. Telgu can become a national language provided their population grows to 50% of total population of country, the revolution can come then.
The same way... Gujrat,Punjab, UP, MP, Maharastra, Delhi entire north speaks Hindi. Even a few pakistani freinds of mine speak Hindi. With such huge population being comfortable, majority wins..hindi is national language accept it... I will love Sindhi to become national language...why not... my mother tounge... but that will be absurd to demand.. I was happy to have sindhi as optional language in school. Again I say...Why Rebel and if schools in chennai are teaching hindi learn it...it is just another language.



As I said before, for inter-community or inter-region communications Hindi was/is never a practical language due to the reasons I mentioned above. Just because capital of India is located in Hindi belt that should put Hindi as national language.

The basic flaw in your argument I see is that you are trying to equate "knowing Hindi" with "Indianness". That's wrong. A person can be a good Indian without knowing Hindi.

No I am not...and I am sorry if that is what u understand from my message. Again as I said...why rebel to learn hindi... Ok I am sure you have gone to a SSN office they offer a translator for people speaking Hindi...If world can recognise our national language why can Chennai not do it. Why do they come to bite if we speak hindi in chennai.



Where did you get that idea that Spanish is 2nd language?
My American friends..well it is not official yet...but it is as good as 2nd language due to growing population. Call any palce they give u options in spanish.
Even in schools kids are taught Spanish, even in MID EAST of USA.


You are contradicting your own statement. The best way to keep unity of a diverse country is to appreciate diversity. Forcing something on all the people of country in the name of "uniformity" results dissatisfaction in some parts of population. And dissatisfaction causes degeneration of the country. Nobody likes something being forced upon him/her.

We all back in India appreciate diversity and so do I, probably thats why we all celebrate all festivals..even Eid.
But again I can celebrate Pongal why cant u accept Hindi. It is your country come on your regional language is fine, but why oppose Hindi and why only is Chennai to great extent.

I will give you an example from history. You know why Bengladesh became separated from Pakistan? Because Pakistan wanted to force Urdu language on Bengali speaking people. That's how the movement started in Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) and eventually resulted separation from Pakistan.

Absolutely accepted. So does that mean Chennai is trying same thing...it is not a kind of revolutionary to talk only their language and disowning national language.

USA is another example where federal govt recognizes the rights of the states. That's why every state has its own constitutions and laws (of course you know the full name of this country - "United States of America"). Federal govt does not tell state govt DMVs whether the driving test should be in English, Spanish, French or Chinese. States decide that according to their own convenience. For example, California provides lots of things in Spanish because there are lots of Spanish speaking people live here. Now, states like Wyoming or Idaho do not need to do that because not many people speak in Spanish in those states. If now federal govt wants to take away state-rights, that can result degeneration of USA too.

USA is vast areawise and each state is probably as big as country. This suits them and even they are accepting spanish which is secondary.


Don't you think Americans don't speak against president? You got to be kidding! Read today's headline: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/bush.ap/index.html

Now they do...after 9/11, before that..?


Actually the act of imposing Hindi language all over India comes very close to the acts of communist Chinese govt - where govt imposed the languages Eastern part of China to Western part of China and Tibet. The cultures, languages and cultures of Western China and Tibet are lot different from wealthy and powerful Eastern and Southern China. That's the price Western China and Tibet paid in the name of "uniformity"! :rolleyes:

No ways... our country was ruled by britishers for so long that after freedom and few things had to be defined well to avoid conflicts and that where came in picture...national flower, fruit, vegetable, game and language and we even have father of nation :rolleyes:

[poragoru]

No ways... our country was ruled by britishers for so long that after freedom and few things had to be defined well to avoid conflicts and that where came in picture...national flower, fruit, vegetable, game and language and we even have father of nation :rolleyes:

You are bringing lots of non-related stuffs into argument to make your point stronger. Let me show how your analogy is flawed.

National flower? It's OK because it does not affect my daily life. What if govt tells me that national flower must be in my garden to prove I am a good Indian? I have a problem with that.

National fruit? It's OK because it does not affect my daily life. What if govt tells me that I must eat national fruit everyday to show I am a good Indian? I have a problem with that.

These things are all symbolic. Nothing more than that. Previously you questioned "how come Chennai people don't speak Hindi". Would you ask same way "how come Sikkim people don't eat mango"? They don't eat mango because they cannot grow mango in their Himalayan mountain terrains.

But National language is not symbolic. It does affect my daily life if it forced upon me and it is expected that I should learn/speak this language.

As I said before, the best way to resolve conflict is to appreciate diversity, instead of imposing something regional to other people in the name of uniformity. Making people speak Hindi is not the way to appreciate diversity, but a narrow mentality of arrogance (do you remember those Americans tourist's arrogance just because Greeks/Italians cannot speak English?).

[greatIndian]

Wow! Reading your comments “Veryblunt”, I couldn’t stop laughing at you. Really tell me how extreme is your bluntness?

One more ABCD here...
well what an inappropriate name GREAT INDIAN.... u not even proud of your country so why choose such a name..your name should be "Cool Dude Yo Man American"....


Well what made you thing I am an ABCD. Are you living in a dream world and you thing everything you see in your dream is real.


Hindi is national language not forced on anyone... and hello who says america does not has national language they do for obvious reasons ENGLISH is FIRST LANGUAGE & SPANISH 2nd LANGUAGE...
U certainly seem to be FOB here trying to impress people...but indeed making fool of urself.


You are speaking without knowing the facts. Take a look at this wikipedia article about official language status: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_the_United_States
I only hope you don’t comeback and say wikipedia is wrong and what not you might even say Hindi is the National language of USA (Since it doesn’t have one and since you speak that language).


Ok have you gone to school ever back in India?
We have uniforms in India...the reason is to avoid discrimination and we have high population of not so rich kids and few rich kids...
Every kid wears a uniform.
Same way our culture is so vast and diverse there has to be a uniformity...that where HINDI comes in picture and 2nd language is the regional language of that state...


I guess poragoru has replied well to this comment.


Regarding a villager wanting to fill in forms... (seems u have never filled any form and have payed to get it filled) FYI: Every state issues govt. form in regional language also.


Again you are wrong. None of the central government forms in India is regionalized. How ignorant you are!! I wonder why? Hmm you might have never been to a postoffice in Southern India, bcos everybody beats you there.. you poor thing…


Democracy comes in our country first and comes later in your so called USA.


Tell me where you got that?


I come from North India and we all beleive in give and take ...but in north it is not a standard set for dowry it goes by status of family... I have 100's of examples where boys and in laws have gone and taken care of expenses of wedding and just wanted the girl to be there bahu and vice versa.


Once again you are wrong. Don't you started feeling that you are very self centric. There is nothing proud about dowry system, but to claim that it is only in South and in North everybody is cool people, is just outright ignorance. Take a look at this article, talks about brides being burnt in North India.
http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/readings/bride_burn/bride%20burning1.doc

I feel bad about dowry system, no matter North or South. We do have our problems, but pointing out these doesn’t make me less patriotic.

Poragoru,
Your analogy about Bangladesh is well said. It’s the core problem that some of these North Indians are not getting it, even educated ones. I guess if you are in a position of force something on others, you could also argue that it is NOT forcing. Hmm power really corrupts.

[Veryblunt]

[QUOTE=poragoru]
But National language is not symbolic. It does affect my daily life if it forced upon me and it is expected that I should learn/speak this language.

Ok tell me this poraguru ...how comes being an Indian knowing Hindi is not needed but English is a must. Even english is forced on us. We do have vernacular mediums but most of us went to school where English was medium of instruction. How comes that does not bother us. But learning Hindi seems like imposition on some of the population.

Why cant it be as simple as learning one more language. And let me make my point clear... My problem is not Chennai population not speaking hindi, it is they rebelling against the language and people speaking that language.

A week back our freind from banglore told this to us... He has a bengali freind who lives in a rented house in a place where the colony is dominated by tamil truck drivers from Chennai and if you speak hindi they beat u up, his bengali freind got beaten up because he spoke to those tamilians in hindi !!!

Again I don't care if one does not speak Hindi, but i care when i go to chennai and i get warned not to speak in hindi... THAT IS IMPOSING...

[anamika:-)]

1. At the time of marriage, a north Indian girl has more boyfriends than her age.

2. Before marriage, she looks almost like a Bollywood heroine and after marriage you have to go around her twice to completely hug her.

3. By the time she professes her undevoted love to you, you are bankrupt because of the number of times you had to take her out to movie theatres and restaurants. And you wait longingly for her dowry.

4. The only dishes she can think of to cook is paneer butter masala, aloo sabji,aloo gobi sabji, aloo matar, aloo paneer, that after eating all those paneer and aloos you are either in the bed with chronic cholestrol or chronic gas disorder.

5. The only growth that you see later in your career is the rise in your monthly phone bill.

6. You are blinded by her love that you think that she is a blonde. Only later do you come to know that it is because of the mehandhi that she applies to cover her gray hair.

7. When you come home from office she is very busy watching " Kyonki saas bi kabi bahu thi" that you either end up eating outside or cooking yourself.

8. You are a very "ESpecial" person to her.

9. She always thought that Madras is a state and covers the whole of south india until she met you.

10. When she says she is going to "work out" she means she is going to "walk out"

11. She has greater number of relatives than the number of people you have in your home town.

12. The only two sentences in English that she knows are "Thank you" and "How are you"

13. She thinks Govinda can dance better than Michael Jackson.


WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE A South Indian GIRL-FRIEND

Her mother looks down at you because you didn't study in IIT or Madras / Anna University.

Her father starts or ends every conversation with " ... I say..."

She shudders if you use four letter words.

She has long hair, neatly oiled and braided (The Dubai based Oil Well Company will negotiate with her on a 25 year contract to extract coconutoil from her hair.)

She uses the word 'Super' as her only superlative.

Her name is another name for a Goddess or a flower.

Her first name is longer than your first name, middle name and surname combined (unless you are from Andhra)

When she mixes milk and rice you are never sure whether it is for the Dog or for herself.

For weddings, she sports a mini jasmine garden on her head and wears silk saris in the Madras heat without looking too uncomfortable while you are melting in your singlet.

She thinks Mohan Lal is the sexiest man alive.

Her favorite cricketer is Krishnamachari Srikkanth.

Her favorite food is dosa though she has tried North Indian snacks like Chats
(pronounced like the slang for 'conversation')

She bursts into songs with her cousins in every movie.

She bores you by telling you which raaga each song you hear is based on.

You have to give her jewellery , though she has already got plenty of it ..

Her thali (Mangal Sutra) weighs more than the championship belts worn by WWF wrestlers.

She is more educated than you.

Her father thinks she is much smarter than you...

Source:
http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogdisplay.aspx?cid=43612

[poragoru]

Ok tell me this poraguru ...how comes being an Indian knowing Hindi is not needed but English is a must. Even english is forced on us.

Any language other than mother-tongue should be optional. Yes, English is forced on us too. But considering today's practical world and globalization English is better than Hindi.



We do have vernacular mediums but most of us went to school where English was medium of instruction. How comes that does not bother us. But learning Hindi seems like imposition on some of the population.

It seems you don't know much about India too. Most of the states have school where MOI (medium of instruction) in local language. I grew up in a small town (not a big metropolitan city) where there were three types of schools:
1. English MOI school
2. local language (my mother tougue) MOI school
3. Hindi MOI school.

My parents chose to enroll me in local language MOI school (not English) so that I can learn my mother-tongue better and explore the richness of this language before learning a foreign language (English, Hindi or whatever). I appreciate very much for their decision.

As you grew up in Maharastra, I am sure your area had Marathi MOI school too (probably Hindi too). But your parents enrolled you in neither local language Marathi school nor "national language" Hindi school. It seems even your parents were not interested in "national language" :rolleyes: but chose English instead. Are you ashamed of your parent's decision? Here let me tell you why your parents put you in English MOI school (and they are smarter than you think).
1. Your parents thought learning English early will put you in advantage - atleast compare to the students in Marathi MOI school.
2. Your parents thought it's important to learn English in todays globlization where most of the business communication happens in English.
3. Your parents thought all the "smarter" kids go to English MOI school. So it's better to send their child to English school.

Of course Hindi did not stand in above points - because "it is just another regional language".

In brief, what MOI would be for a child's education - that's just parent's choice (not mandatory and not being forced on someone). And your parent chose to enroll you in English school. They were not forced. It's as simple as that.

I hope you put your child in Hindi (National Language) MOI schools (not English).



Why cant it be as simple as learning one more language.

Pot calling kettle black. :rolleyes: Why can't you learn one more language, Tamil - especially when you are visiting/traveling Tamil Nadu? You refuse to learn Tamil and expect Chennai local people to speak Hindi by giving excuse of "national language". It seems you youself cannot practice what you preach.

You are embracing Hindi because it's convenient for you (for learning + speaking). This question I asked earlier but did not get any answer: Would you like it if any other regional language, which is very distant from your mother-tongue, is made national language? Example, Telegu or Assamese or Manipuri? In that case you would be the first person to complain about it because learning "national language" (Telegu or Assamese or Manipuri) is not easy for you anymore. Why am I assuming so? Because it's clear that when you visit Chennai, you refuse to learn Tamil. You refuse to learn something that would take some extra efforts. "National Language" tag? That's an excuse for not learning a regional language like Tamil and expecting people speak in a language what YOU know. That's arrogance.

BTW, just to make it clear, I am not a South Indian and Tamil is not my mother-tongue. So don't assume I am insisting you to learn my mother-tongue.



My problem is not Chennai population not speaking hindi, it is they rebelling against the language and people speaking that language.

I never justified it and I referred it as "fanatism". So don't keep arguing in same point again and again. Read my earlier posts.

Let me be clear one more time:
What language Chennai people speak or don't speak - that's not your business (therefore, don't expect them to speak Hindi). What language you speak or don't speak - that's not Chennai people's business either (therefore, they should not mis-behave if you speak Hindi). If you expected Chennai local people to speak Hindi, that's wrong. If they expected you not to speak Hindi, that's wrong too.



Again I don't care if one does not speak Hindi, but i care when i go to chennai and i get warned not to speak in hindi... THAT IS IMPOSING...

As I said before I never justified that.

Hmmm. Actually in your initial post you did not make your point with above argument. On the contrary you complained about Tamil people not learning "national language". Basically you were mad that Tamil people don't learn Hindi. Let's revisit your intial post:
http://forum.path2usa.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37169&postcount=78

Here you said:
"I hate one thing about Chennai that being in India they don't use Hindi which is National Lanaguage, regardless of mother tounge one has to learn national language and in Chennai......"
:eek: :eek:
It's clear that you are shifting from your original position in your own convenience.

[greatIndian]

Why cant it be as simple as learning one more language. And let me make my point clear... My problem is not Chennai population not speaking hindi, it is they rebelling against the language and people speaking that language.

A week back our freind from banglore told this to us... He has a bengali freind who lives in a rented house in a place where the colony is dominated by tamil truck drivers from Chennai and if you speak hindi they beat u up, his bengali freind got beaten up because he spoke to those tamilians in hindi !!!


This is ridicules argument and it is not even close to truth. She is taking one instant and extrapolating it into the norm. She is talking as if every hindi speaking people are getting beaten up in Chennai. How low is your thinking capability? If you go out there to Chennai and talk with your attitude, I won’t be surprise people are beating you up.

I guess you keep posting your nonsense, but ignoring people’s logical comments. I know why, bcos you are blunt and couldn’t understand. We can only wakeup people who are really sleeping, but not those who are pretending to be sleeping.

[anthony]

Anything should not be forced upon anybody. If someone dont want to learn Hindi , just leave them. Its their wish to learn or not to learn . You cant hate them just bcos they are not learning Hindi.
So what if Hindi is a national language...It should be the people's interest to learn or not to learn.
It doesnt mean that if something is tagged national everyone should do it regardless of their interests.

Is everything tagged national given the same importance.. Why this bias of Southies not learning national language.

I would like to give an example :
Just as Hindi is our national language, Hockey is our national game. How many of you play hockey or even watch hockey or atleast know the details of the game compared to cricket. Can you people who argue about "national" atleast know the names of the hockey players of our country.
But I am sure you know the names of all the cricket players . and also the probable players in the coming years. Why all the endorsements are done by cricket players.. Why filmstars and politicians go to other countries just to watch a game of cricket. Why this over importance to a game which is not our "national" game. Why people (even in NI )are crazy about cricket.
CRICKET IS NOT OUR "NATIONAL" GAME SO WHY THIS IMPORTANCE.
HOCKEY IS OUR "NATIONAL" GAME. WHY NOTHING OF THIS KIND FOR HOCKEY EVEN THOUGH IT IS A NATIONAL GAME.
I know its the peoples interest but want the people who agrue about "national" language to answer.
When the whole country (Even NI) doesnt bother some thing "national". why point out only southies not learning national language.

posted by csingh
Here's how every other post is now: "I don't generalize, but ALL North Indians are Pigs" or "Not everybody is like this, but ALL South Indians are scum"....what the hell?

hehehe...GreatIndian, I hope I didn't offend you. Nothing against guys liking long hair....just the idea of any guy saying he likes long hair because it shows a willingness to commit or whatever as opposed to just liking long hair because it looks good/hot etc

and Mr.csingh you missed one thing how every other post is here.
Whenever a Northie ridicules Southies, people like you heckle and whenever a Southie ridicules the same people would want to talk sense.

[ShaileshP]

I've read pages upon pages of this thread...

Could someone tell me what is this all about ? It started with a discussion which I believe belongs more to the innumerable Indian Sex Sites which have threads ranging from which Actress is more sexy to more disgusting topics.

Cut it out guys and gals. Beauty is in the eyes of the Beholder. What quality attracts one, may not be appealing to others. Why do people even generalize to any particular race and region?

Having being born and brought up in the vast metropolis named Mumbai, I've grown up with Indians from various regions. Every region - Be it North, South, East or West have their own diversity. And each region with its own unique lifestyle is bound to have some idiosyncracies.

I think the admins should lock this thread. Enough of rage, racism and fanatism has poured in the preceeding pages.

[fAitH in LOVE]

This discussion should be BLOCKED