Mom rejected 6 times. Please help.

[bcapra]

I am posting this hoping that there are people out there that went through the same situation as us and finnaly got the visa.
My mother is a 51 years old widow, she is on a sick leave pension, both her children (me and my Brother) are US residents, living in US.
She tried 6 times to apply for a visitors visa....last time we asked for a 10 year visa that would allow her to come an go whenever and however her health would allow. She took all the proper documentation. Everything she was asked for (property, bank account, doctor appointments) she had it all ready for the consular officer. She was denied again.Some other time she applied, the reason for her trip was to attend my brother's wedding. Denied , denied, denied...six times.

Is there anything we can do? Is there any more hope? She is always told that she needs stronger ties to her country. The only ties she has are her mother, her sister, her property, her church and her medical condition (she must attent a Commision Board every 6 moths for her medical pension). Other than that I don't know what else we can come up with. She does not want to reside in the US as her mother is in her care.
Please if anybody outhere went through something similiar please share with me your experience and advice.
Thank you. I still believe there is something that can be done.
Please help. We are desperate.

[SED298]

Hi,
I am in the same situation as you. We are 3 sisters all in US. Mom is a 51year old widow. Her visa was also rejected for the 5th time just yesterday. Just cannot think as to what to do next. I am thinking that the initiative must take place from here i.e. talk to some person with authority here. I am still trying to comprehend what to do. In case I come up with something, I will let you know. Please stay in touch and update if you come across something.
Thanks.

[rcmax]

Guys,
my mother's visa was also rejected twice. Now I am thinking about applying GC for her as I will get my citizenship soon. It should take one year after my citizenship and is a sure shot process. Anyway the visitor visa appontment dates itself is taking 6 months these days.

[bcapra]

Thank you guys for replying to my message. Good luck to you and your parents. Personally sometimes I get a feeling that once these people denny you it's so hard to get back into their graces. I don't think that people with influence here can do too much eather. We have tried at the US Embassy , and talked to a US official and he said that asking somebody to influence the Embassy to give a visa to a person is totally illegal. This is a american official at the US embassy in my country.
But still I am sure there must be a way for a 51 year old lady to be able to come to US and visit her children. Just have to find it.
Thank you guys and good luck to you.

[jaya06]

We have tried at the US Embassy , and talked to a US official and he said that asking somebody to influence the Embassy to give a visa to a person is totally illegal.

bcapra,

Does that mean taking a senator letter is illegal too? I have seen a lot of people taking senator letters, but I am not sure of how helpful it would be. And now, after seeing your post, I am not sure how much 'legal' it is to take a senator letter for interview.

My MIL's visa was rejected 3 times in the past couple of years (she visited US 6yrs ago and left back on-time, she has all her children in India except one in USA, she is a widow aged 68 yrs). Though she is reluctant to apply again, we connvinced her to go just one more time to try our lucks. We too always wonder that there is something that is going wrong which we couldn't figure out yet.

[kloodin]

a senator's letter will not affect the outcome. Senators have no authority over the visa process nor is it likely that they somehow "know" a person who lives 10,000 miles away!
Did your mother (to the OP) during her first or second interview 'forget' that both of you were in the US? Did one or both of you go to the US on a tourist or business visa and 'forget' to return? If so, well, there may be a credibility problem that won't be resolved any time soon. If none of those things happened, well, there is not much to say. If she has no other strong familial ties to her country it will be tougher for her to get the visa (and she cannot use the care of her mother as an excuse to come back because she apparently can leave her mother for some number of months...):(

[salehahakim]

I am posting this hoping that there are people out there that went through the same situation as us and finnaly got the visa.
My mother is a 51 years old widow, she is on a sick leave pension, both her children (me and my Brother) are US residents, living in US.
She tried 6 times to apply for a visitors visa....last time we asked for a 10 year visa that would allow her to come an go whenever and however her health would allow. She took all the proper documentation. Everything she was asked for (property, bank account, doctor appointments) she had it all ready for the consular officer. She was denied again.Some other time she applied, the reason for her trip was to attend my brother's wedding. Denied , denied, denied...six times.

Is there anything we can do? Is there any more hope? She is always told that she needs stronger ties to her country. The only ties she has are her mother, her sister, her property, her church and her medical condition (she must attent a Commision Board every 6 moths for her medical pension). Other than that I don't know what else we can come up with. She does not want to reside in the US as her mother is in her care.
Please if anybody outhere went through something similiar please share with me your experience and advice.
Thank you. I still believe there is something that can be done.
Please help. We are desperate.

Ask ur mom to apply in grp.

[kloodin]

applying in a group won't fool anyone...she still has to qualify, she will still have to answer questions about her relatives in the US...being in a group (like a tour) does not improve anyone's chances nor relieve the applicant from having to overcome the presumption of immigrant intent.:rolleyes:

[bcapra]

First of all, I am not even sure if any senator will do a letter for a foreign lady ( I am only a permanent resident here, Cannot vote yet). They might want to do it, but that does not mean the US Embassy will consider it.
Kloodin, my mother always mentioned my brother being in US. Did not mention me. We both came on a visa, but both got married and got papers through marriage. 5th time she went , my brother was there and joined her to the window. The consular offices did not ask my mother anything but only spoke to my brother. The CO was very rude and mean, questioned my brother and told him that it is a punishment for my mother for the fact that he stayed in US and did not return to his contry. My brother explained to him that he was very young (18) and his decission was made by himself only and my mother only wants to visit US and meet his wife. They both are in school and working full time. SO we do have some issues, but we are trully honest when we say that she only wants to visit. She is sick and is on a seak leave. Her medical treatments would be waaay to expensive here especially without medical insurance.
I was only mentioned this last time , when my husband did the affidavit of support.

I am trying to find a way to repair the damage and still be able to have my mother visit us here. That's all.

[kloodin]

I think I see the problem....she basically lied on her application the first time about the fact that both of you were in the US...and now it is going to be tougher for her because she already showed a willingness to not tell the truth.
As to the alleged 'rudeness' - well, I expect because your brother didn't get what he wanted and probably tried to act like a big shot and failed, he wants to make everyone believe that the denial was the fault of the VO....sorry, the fault lies with your mother (and to some extent to the both of you...after all, neither of you did what you said when you got the visas....you both stayed, and then possibly encouraged your mother to lie about your presence or status in the US...so why should the consuls believe a single word either of you say now????)
Let this be a lesson for those of you who have "forgotten" to return to your country after getting a tourist or business visa....the computer records will be available at your relative's interview...and any attempt to conceal information will only make things worse, not better.:eek:

[bcapra]

Geeee Kloodin, you really are frank (just like a CO), but that's fine....situation is like it is....The reson she did not mention me was because we knew that by her being a widow with both children in US it would have been rejection for sure. So....can you blame us?
As far as my brother's attitude it was nothing like that. We do know that being humble and polite in front of that window is better than having an attitude.The CO was totally rude because my brother was one of those who left and did not return. But anyways CO's know that everybody might not go back, I am sure they know it even when they grant visas. And Kloodin, don't make it sound like all CO are perfect, never make mistakes. Anyway that is not why I am posting on this forum. I am desperatelly trying to find a way to repair the damage, make them understand that we only want to have her here for visit. All her documents were always accurate and well prepared.
If anybody can offer good advice I would very much appreciate it.

[kloodin]

take a look at your situation before blaming the VOs....you and your brother left on tourist or business visas and did not come back (strike one)...your mother apparently lied about your presence in the US (strike two),,,your brother tried to push the VO around somehow (strike three....you are out)....all this other stuff is meaningless...you and your brother lied to our VOs, your mother lied to our VOs, and now you cannot understand why they don't believe anything you say or present in writing....well, I don't believe you either....and I figured out the whole story....imagine how quickly the VOs figured it out....it is too late. Your mother's credibility is zilch. That is what happens when people try to fool the consuls....if you don't succeed, well, that is the end of the ballgame.

[sebastian0730]

The moment she went to the window, the stemp whas alredi on the passport... than the CO called for me... his words :You left in the us in 20.. u staid ilegeli and worcked ilegali for 2 yeas...) i was onest.... would he beline me if e whas to say NO.... the same cuestion i was ascked at my GC interviu... and y was onest... The CO said to me : Thanck u for your onesty.... congratulation starting today u are a us Rezident..
If anione have any adice pls let me know

[kloodin]

well....what kind of visa did you enter the US with in 200....whatever? A B1? A B2? Why didn't you return like you promised? Since you didn't, you, your brother and your mother have no credibility. And you won't get it back with a bunch of documents either.
Why do you think it was OK to lie to get your B1 or B2 visa and then not return as you promised? I would love to hear your rationalization.:mad:

[bcapra]

OK Kloodin, we got it....that's fine...but I just want to point out one thing to you.....since you blane soo much people that come here on a visa (vistor's or whatever visa) and do not go back....If these people are soo terrible, and they are breaking all the rules and do not keep their promises, well then why does United States have laws that will allow these kind of people to become permanent residents and eventually citizens? It's is impossible to not have people that will stay here. It is a wonderful country after all, with great people and woderful opportunities SO ...nobody should come and decide to stay in USA....is that what you are saying.....Your grand grand parents were probably people like us...foreigners....I do not belive that it is against the law to come here and then legaly decide to stay. WHy is it such a "SIN" in front of a consular window???? It's absurd. I am sure ....EVERYBODY.....is a potential US emigrant in front of that window.

Kloodin, thank you for your advice, will also take the criticism. Good bye.

[jaya06]

Thank you rcmax....at least one person uderstood my point....anyways this was it for me on this forum...too much bitterness and agressiveness...Good luck to all of you out there and may you and your families be able to visit eachother and see eachother as you wish......God Bless......

I don't understand why most people don't understand the difference between "illegal" immigrants and "legal" immigrants. After all, USA is full of immigrants, the only difference is that some folks migrated hundrends of years ago and some are migrating now.

A point to note is that all the people on visas (ex: H1B) and permanent residents are paying thousands of dollars in taxes though they don't get ANY social security benefit from the govt.

This govt doesn't treat the parents of 'tax payers' well and denies their tourist visas at consulates abroad for no mistake on the 'legal' immigrant's part.